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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP with no skin in the game who hasn’t thought much about this. I’ve read every page and I have to admit no one has provided any evidence that diet and exercise is an effective weight loss strategy. Your smokingest guns are “I know people who have lost weight” and “Look at Jennifer Hudson”

I’m more inclined to believe the “diet and exercise isn’t helping us be less fat” as they seem to have at least some science on their side…and it is true that public health messaging has been pushing diet and exercise for like 40 years and obesity is just getting worse. It makes sense to move away from that and try something else. [/quote]

Diet and exercise absolutely do work when used long term to prevent becoming overweight or to lose small amounts of weight.  The problem is the average person doesn’t implement any semblance of a heathy diet and doesn’t exercise, therefore the average person is now overweight or obese. So I guess we are at a point in society where the average person will eat garbage day in day out until they are are fat enough to be obese and have weight related health problems, then they get a script for meds to lose some pounds.  I mean, I guess this is better than remaining obese forever for the people that can actually get a script, but this isn’t an awesome way to live either.  [/quote]

It's not really a secret what is going on here.

Every fat person I know says that they have "tried everything." They show up to work with a massive Big Gulp of Mountain Dew. They get a large meat lovers pizza for lunch. Work out today? Nahhh, maybe tomorrow. And the next day they hit up McDonalds for a large value meal. Too lazy to walk inside so they sit in the drive thru line that is wrapped around the building. If these people are "trying" to lose weight, it's a half ass effort at best.  [/quote]

It’s good that they’ll have these drugs to help them lose weight then so we can finally get control of the obesity crisis then![/quote]

I guess that is the question - will the drugs help them make better food choices and eat healthy?  Or will they still eat the crap but just less of it?

Because if it's the latter, I don't think that's a good solution.  What about getting essential nutrition?[/quote]

Well it’s a better solution than eating crap AND continuing to be overweight, which is the alternative. Not sure what your point is. Making people eat only healthy food is not a viable solution. [/quote]

Do you have a mysterious disorder that causes you to be allergic to healthy food?[/quote]

Me, the PP? No. I eat mostly healthy food. Why?[/quote]

I just wonder what is preventing people from eating healthy food.[/quote]

No one, what are you talking about? You drinking tonight?[/quote]

That's basically what you said, but your post was a shit show.[/quote]

Definitely quote where I said that, because I didn’t.

I said if they’re going to eat junk food anyway (which they will, despite public health’s constant efforts to tell people to eat healthy people won’t stop eating the food that is easy and tastes good. We can’t make people eat healthy food) they might as well take a medication that helps them eat less of it so they will lose weight. Eating less unhealthy food and losing weight is obviously better than eating a lot of unhealthy food and not losing weight. That’s why these drugs are so great. [/quote]

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