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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ya'll have never been to these poor countries.  If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane.  The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.[/quote]

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, [b]wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid[/b]—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is  speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.[/quote]

Are you making crap up because you don't have a valid point to make?

As I've stated many times, I don't want to deny them anything. I just want to separate aid from proselytizing. Do both - just not at the same time when people are vulnerable.

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You haven’t been able to show proselytizing. You’ve showed a guy setting an example and some people, who were probably already Christian, praying. Stop cursing when you have nothing to show. [/quote]

Do you think any of these missionaries around the world are proselytizing?

And when you stop making crap up, I'll stop calling it out. Easy solution.

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Do you think they’re proselytizing in any way besides setting an example, putting a cross on the wall, or maybe handing out pamphlets or bibles? If so, prove it. Otherwise, you’re still just speculating

Do you think the poor of other countries are incapable of making their own decisions? When you find a Gideon Bible in your hotel room, do you instantly convert?

When you stop posting crap speculation about what’s happening in videos you want us to watch, with your dire conclusions about why likely Christians are praying, we’ll pay attention to you. When you stop posting crap about how helping a desperately ill Mongolian child’s parents accompany the kid to stay with a welcoming host family is some sort of forced abduction, we’ll pay attention to you. [/quote]

You are saying that you don't think anyone talked to the Mongolian moms about Jesus while they were here?

Do you think they had any choice other than to live with those host families for months?

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Of course they said they’re Christian. Do you have a problem with that? Do you have the same problem with telling Haitian Christians that you’re atheist or whatever you are?

Nobody is interested in speculation, whether it’s your speculation or speculation in response to your questions. You need to find some real arguments.

How can you not realize that paying hotels would take deep cuts in small budgets, and reduce the overall care three groups can offer?[/quote]

Do you think they talked to the moms about "inviting Christ into their lives"? Or did the moms came up with that language on their own?

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You want more speculation? How about this?

The missionary doctor was so loving that the mother, who had noticed the cross on the wall, asked him about his faith.

He handed her a pamphlet and told her that he had accepted Christ when he was 19. She took the pamphlet home and talked it over with her family and friends, including the atheist Marxist down the street.

After several months of learning more and taking to more family and friends, and getting an earfull from the atheist down the street, she decided this is something she wanted to do. So she went back to the doctor (her kid had healed several months ago) and asked him how to follow his faith. And that’s when he told her how to accept Jesus into her life. 
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