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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Berlin is close to voting on a referendum to allow people just 12 car trips per year in the city.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/07/03/berlin-moves-to-ban-autos-from-inside-the-city-widespread-chaos-looms/

I figure this might solve the problem of congress being too old if everyone has to take a bike.[/quote]

It will be interesting to watch all the cyclists in DC when the temperature is 25 degrees with a wind chill temp of 18.  
And, you expect the Congress members who live in VA or MD - 20+ miles from DC to bike to work?  [/quote]

People will be a lot fitter and thinner

And before people say that dc is thin…it’s still bigger than Paris or Milan

Even in the umc community - dc people pack a solid 20+ lbs more than their ses counterparts in Western Europe [/quote]

Who is their right mind is driving inside DC if they live in DC and are walking distance away from amenities and can easily commute to their job? This is a fake grievance.  People already walk by far and large.  The reason we need cars when living in urban areas is because areas outside are very car dependent and we need cars to go OUTSIDE of the city.  Some people have family they need to visit outside or even jobs, and with transit being limited it’s often faster to drive than take a combination of metro and buses if you don’t live/work near stations.

These limitations isn’t about improving the lives or residents in the city but controlling how many times people leave their city limits.  Get real. This is precisely the thing paranoid conspiracies mean when they say “15 min city”.  People should have access to personal vehicles and be allowed to use them whenever they want to get outside and have freedom of movement.  And I am a big proponent of urban lifestyle and walkability and NYC is my favorite city (lived there for a very long time). [/quote]

People with families. People who have to juggle picking up multiple kids from different schools, aftercare. People who need to buy groceries, who need to be in different places on tight deadlines. [/quote]

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