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I think most of us have come to terms with hijab and will even defend your right to veil. However, we can still wonder and ask questions here about standards of modesty that ask women to enforce men's purity, and that don't also require modesty in other aspects of living such as cars, houses, jewelry, et cetera. These questions have been raised, but the answers here have been unsatisfactory (to many here, it would seem) and in fact your answers have digressed into Western women's athletic gear and STDs. That's why you're seeing pushback. I suppose you, too, will need to come to terms with this.[/quote]
You're giving her "pushback" because you don't really want to be convinced, you have your position, and you're standing by it.  That's fine, but then don't pretend there's an answer in the world that could have satisfied you.  You're acting like a five-year old who keeps getting more and more reasons why he can't have ice cream before dinner only to keep saying "but whyyyyy?  whyyyyyy? you haven't convinced me!"[/quote]

This post makes no sense.  The pp made valid points, why are you saying she is "like a five-year old?"  You don't know her, you don't know anything about her beyond that paragraph, and you don't know if there is something that could have convinced her.  I don't understand posts like this that just want to call people names and shut down the discussion.[/quote]m

Thanks, and you're correct. I disagree with PP but insulting me doesn't solve that. Namely, the Quran doesn't explicitly require covering the hair, and I find PP's arguments for covering hair anyway to be sexist and unpersuasive. The fetisizing of women's hair is frankly ludicrous, offensive, and is way off base about most women's relationship with their own hair; I don't agree with a system that places 90% of the burden for controlling men's lust on the woman; and I don't understand a system where "modesty" hinges on women's hair but not on other things we in the west associate with modesty, like men's dress  and avoiding conspicuous consumption. None of this makes me a five-year-old. Maybe there are compelling reasons out there that don't smack of sexism and fetishization of women's hair, but PP has been unable to verbalize them. Calling me names doesn't make PP's hijab arguments any more persuasive, it just makes her look like a jerk.[/quote]

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