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Follow the money. The reason NY feels they've been duped is because - they were.
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New York State wasn't duped.   Their department of education decided what curriculum they wanted to have, and designed that curriculum.  That is how our systemn of education works -- each state designs its own curriculum.   THey chose something quite ambitious and it was far more than what was required by Common Core standards.[/quote]

Again, you are separating the standards from the curriculum. I would like you to specifically show me how the standards over-reach common core, how they are over ambitious. Use examples from the workbooks to prove your point, and show me how they go well beyond the common core standards. It's time for you to prove your rhetoric.

Please also provide examples of what you feel would be appropriate way to meet those standards alongside the over-reaching New York standards.

I'm asking you to do this because you seem to feel you know more than the educators and administrators in NY, and are calling them liars.

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Link to New York State standards for social studies:

http://www.p12.nysed.gov/ciai/socst/

Link to Common Core standards for social studies:

[blank space here]

That's because there aren't any Common Core standards for social studies.

(I'm not the PP you were talking to.)[/quote]

How about mathematics and english?

And I posted the CC standard that stated that history and social studies literacy was under english. The question is, what is literacy in social studies and history? How are they going to meet that standard? Will you blame the state if X state does and Y state does not?

Will the tests be the same across the USA? Or will each state have their own test? What about when we get to the SAT and ACT, which is being changed to meet CC standards, and we know that they are the same nationwide.

Lastly, are you saying that the NY teachers and administrators are too stupid to realize that they are not dealing with CC? If so, then I trust you are starting a movement to oust them, correct, because they should not be educating kids. [/quote]

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