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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours![/quote]

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.[/quote]

Kids basically do all of these. [/quote]

Exactly, screaming tantruming kids at restaurants are better?  Loud drunk obnoxious adults?[/quote]

People hate that behavior and complain about it all the time though. I've seen people with out of control kids or an adult who is drunk and loud be asked to leave if they are bothering other people.

The fact that sometimes kids behave poorly and some parents don't do anything about it does not mean that dog owners should be allowed to let their dogs do whatever they want.

Also for the millionth time, kids and dogs are different. Kids are people and have actual legal rights to be in certain places. Kids are also future adults so as a society we have a vested interest in them learning how to behave in different settings and learning how the world works. A kid tantrumming in a grocery store is annoying but also on some level that's part of the process of them learning out to be a person in the world and over time their behavior in the store will improve and their experience there will benefit them (and therefore also everyone else) eventually. A dog in a grocery store is just a dog in a grocery store. There's no social reason why dogs need acclimate to being in grocery stores. The dog wil not one day go to the grocery store alone and apply what it learned in all those trips there with it's "dog mom."[/quote]

And next will be that poster aka dog mom advocating that their dog also needs to be around for social reasons.[/quote]

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