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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At the most fundamental level it is the woke who are racists. They assume blacks and Hispanics are not capable and hence need to tip scales in their favor.

It is not black, Hispanic, white or asian that matters in most things, but the income/wealth level.

If you look at a say just those families with masters degrees, their kids average about the same level regardless of their race. A black kid from highly educated parent would be just as capable in every single respect to a kid from other races with similarly educated parents.

Woke people would rather they feel superior than help the poor. [/quote]

People of the same income but from different cultures have different academic outcomes.
Immigrants do better than natives.
asian immigrant cultures do better than mainstream american culture at every income level

Of course income matters but culture is generally more predictive of outcomes than income level.
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The problem with this is most of those getting in were from a small set of wealthy schools, and the largest beneficiaries of the change were low-income Asians.  [/quote]

It's great that TJ is now accessible to all residents.[/quote]
Including the ones who are bad at math[/quote]

Sorry you kid couldn't get in without buying the test answers, but envy is not a good look on you. [/quote]

They're never going back to the corrupt system that allowed parents to use wealth and privilege to impact the process. The data shows that TJ is doing better than ever now too.[/quote]

Objective tests results are valid regardless of SES.
If wealth and privilege was driving the admission under the old regime, you would have seen more white students get admitted under the old regime and fewer under the new regime.
Instead we saw white admissions go from 86 in the last year of the old regime to 140 under the most recent year of the new regime.

https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAT_ACT_on_Grades.pdf[/quote]

If you didn’t cherry pick the data you’d see that…

On average, classes have had ~27 more white students and ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.

[img]https://i.ibb.co/h7XDP0j/demochanges.png[/img]

More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

TJ provides opportunities for growth and enrichment for gifted kids with an interest in STEM. It’s not some kind of trophy. 
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Under the old process 90%+ of the students were coming from a handful of wealthy schools where students were engaged in outside prep which even included access to many of the test questions. Under the new system the top students from those wealthy schools are still selected yet selections are spread out out among the top students from all schools not just those who can afford the test. Further the racial demographics seems to a function of who applies. The admit rate for each group was within 1%-2% of the mean. [/quote]

It wasn't 90% from a few schools.  About half came from 5 out of 29 schools, about 25% from carson.  
The test isn't picking up the best.  There is a rising sophomore at woodson that developed a [b]treatment for cancer[/b] that didn't get in.
There was a time when almost all the top AMC 10 and math olympiad participants were at tj.  Now it's spread out across northern virginia.
The fact that who gets in is so closely aligned with who applies as opposed to who has talent is what makes it resemble a lottery not merit.
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Agree the old process picked those students whose families could BEST afford test prep. [/quote]

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