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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So the R lawmakers are trying to save the situation by passing another law that excludes frozen embryos. Seems to me that they are playing God here, deciding which embryo is a "baby" and which is not.

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/22/1233270447/alabama-lawmakers-move-to-protect-ivf-treatment

[quote]Melson, who chairs the Senate's Health Care Committee, said Thursday that he is planning to introduce legislation that would clarify that[b] embryos are not viable unless they are implanted in a uterus[/b].[/quote]

This is a slippery slope.  When is a fetus "viable"?  A fetus with a genetic defect that cannot survive much after being born is not "viable".  So, shouldn't the woman be able to abort such a fetus?

Too much gray area. That's the problem with these kinds of laws, and why politicians should stay away from defining medical terms and treatment.

Stupid a$$ Rs.[/quote]

If they’re gong to use the term implant that means after attaching to the uterine wall. So it means  NOT at the moment of fertilization, when the sperm enters the egg which then divides. In a typical non-IVF pregnancy implantation happens maybe 3-5 days after fertilization. So now cons are going to have to come up with an excuse for why those freely floating fertilized eggs not yet attached to the uterus are not people.  [/quote]

Bingo.
They all need to go back to high school biology and try again.  Fertilization precedes implantation, and implantation itself isn't guaranteed with either IVF or natural conception.
And, no, transferring an embryo to a uterus does not equal implantation.[/quote]

And - morning-after pills ARE NOT "abortion."  Sorry Hobby Lobby.[/quote]

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