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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

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The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.[/quote]
Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat. [/quote]

Biden beat Trump in 2020.  Yes he did.  Trump lost. The GOP will have to try to play games in 2024 to have even a shred of hope for their truly terrible candidate.   Trump is so weak, doubt that even no labels can do anything to help him much.[/quote]

You missed PP’s point. [/quote]

Pp thinks Biden will lose.  What is hard to understand about that?[/quote]

No. PP is saying that if something happens to Biden, there is no backup plan and no one is thinking about it. If, God forbid, Biden had a major stroke or died, Democrats will be SOL because they haven’t given any serious thought to that scenario. That is a huge issue. [/quote]

If something happens to trump, the GOP has the same issue.[/quote]

But the stupid GOP has been testing out other candidates!!!! God, the knee jerk reaction to a suggestion for the Democratic Party, but but but Trump like some adolescent trying to come up with an excuse for not doing their homework. Prepare to have someone who can beat both Trump and Biden. What is wrong with you people? This is the sort of crap that gave us Trump in the first place. [/quote]
It’s not a knee jerk reaction. We have played this game before several times and lost. You hate Biden irrationally and really rather stupidly, we get it.

I posted the actual vote tallies upthread of what happens when there’s a spoiler candidate. Say it to yourself over and over again until you understand this fundamental truth: in our current system, there is no third party option. Nader, Nader, Sanders/Stein. We literally had two of the worst presidents in American history due to people like you who can’t get it through their thick skulls that you can’t just huff in, decide you don’t like either of the two options - Joseph “Cheddar Cheese” Biden and Donald “Liquid Feces You Can’t Hold In” Trump - and then proceed to try and wreck the election.

My god you third party people are beyond stupid. [/quote]
There are no viable 3rd party candidates in the 2024 race at this point in time. [b]Polling data for a head to head match-up between Trump & Biden indicates the likelihood of a Biden victory over Trump is at best a 50/50.[/b] Again, these are the same polls that showed Biden as a very clear favorite at this same point in time leading up to the 2020 election. Trump is the same awful and very beatable candidate he was in 2019/2020 but yet he is polling much better against the same guy he trailed by double digits in 2019. Read the room, the perception among voters of Biden's strength as a candidate has dwindled since 2019. That may not be fair but it is what it is. Shouting down a discussion that involves concerns of Biden's ability to beat Trump in 2024 is counter-productive. Most of us have the same goal in mind- keep Trump out of office. Some people are becoming troubled by what the polling data is indicating and the concern is valid. There are no easy solutions that will replace Biden with a candidate that will immediately be heavily favored to beat Trump. There may be no solution at all. The conversation is still valid and very important.[/quote]

When considering the upcoming election, don’t focus on polling over a year out.  Think about where people will be in October and November of 2024 when they are *totally locked in* and the election is unquestionably the biggest story in the world.  When they have absorbed a year of Trump’s diatribes and crazy Twitter meltdowns.

To put it in fantasy football terms, it’s like looking at the matchup on Friday and assuming you are going to win because that’s what the model is currently predicting.  Except that your opponent hasn’t moved his bye week players to the bench yet, and when he does, and he surely will by Sunday, the predicted outcome will change dramatically.[/quote]

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