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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Test scores alone are not highly indicative of a successful future college student.  It makes no sense to force a college to admit students based on this criteria.  I don’t know why we put so much weight upon them.  All they really do is generically show relative strengths and weaknesses among high schools.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/02/19/study-finds-little-difference-academic-success-students-who-do-and-dont-submit-sat#:~:text=The%20study%20confirms%20that%20high,who%20will%20succeed%20in%20college.%22[/quote]

I keep seeing this claim made but there are decades of research studies on this topic and many show that SAT scores are a very strong predictor of not only college grades but future career success as well. [/quote]
+1 which is why MIT went back to requiring SAT scores.[/quote]

MIT is only ONE T25 school.  Georgetown still requires the SAT since it's not in the common app.

How about HYPS and the other 1,800+ who are test optional? How about the SAT/ACT going digital to even stay relevant?

I think you've missed the test optional trend. Get used to it.  It is here to stay.[/quote]
It is here to stay because more and more schools want to increase DEI.  Getting rid of SAT scores is one way to do that.  Why not just get rid of GPAs since there is so much grade inflation and grading is als
o pretty subjective? [/quote]

GPA - and rigor- over 4 years is a better indicator of college success (at least freshman year) than one 3-hour test.

The AOs know this.[/quote]

The AOs are failures in life. If they weren't, they wouldn't be stuck in an admissions office. They have low level degrees in xyz studies type areas and have their own personal social agendas to fulfill. I know this because I have the misfortune of interacting with many of them. Professors are not happy about the trajectory of admissions decisions over the past decade [/quote]
The distain for people who work in education across this forum is so sad. If these failures are picking the classes, why would you want to be part of them? They suck at life, but somehow are able to put together talented cohorts year after year?

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Just sour grapes from the PP.

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Not to mention, how much "transparency" does China have?? GTFOH.[/quote]

It's really a huge shame that the US has less transparency than even China when it comes to college admission. seriously WTF[/quote]

Once again, if China is so awesome, you are free to go there and experience this awesome system. [/quote]

So you agree that US college admission system is less transparent than even China.

Do you agree with every parts of every US systems. Is that why you are here?

I'm not sure about you, but I think there are rooms to make improvements in many arears in this country.

I care about this country where my kids were born, so unlike you I don't just leave just because I you don't like something.

I like to see improvements and progress.

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I was born here, no plans to leave.  I do NOT think the Western European, china, India ways of tracking kids at an early age is a better system.  So I will fight to not change to that.

The main problem with our current system appears to be many feel "entitled" to an elite university experience because they "worked so hard and got high test scores over 12 years".  The blinders are on and they cannot recognize there are not enough spaces for everyone who is highly qualified.  And somehow refuse to recognize this and search for great Target and safety schools.   Nobody is saying you cannot get an education.  You can---most likely at a 25-50 ranked school---still excellent choice and it will not hold your kid back at all, unless they come from an area of entitlement/privilege that they are too good for those schools.

Reaches are just that---reaches for every DAMN person who applies, unless you are an athlete or kid of a president/last name of Bezos or gates/etc.  So reach for the stars, but have a good plan in place for if that doesn't work.  Because statistically, it will not work out.  
It seems many entitled kids this is the first time money and privilege has not bought them everything they wanted. And they cannot seem to recognize their extreme privilege over most of the other kids in the US

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The main problem with our current system is that there's no clear rules, no transparency, and they even discriminate based on race.

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Admissions' tried to have clear rules, then people worked the system, and ruined it for everyone else.  So, there will never be clear rules again.  [/quote]

The rules were dumb and stupid then.[/quote]

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