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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Secondly I have to laugh at how people think going to college is the key to success, a good job and income security.

If that was the case then why aren’t minority college grads doing tough majors and going into law, medicine, consulting, appears, engineering jobs.

Instead they fill up gender and racial studies departments, become further enraged and victimized, and go on to make peanuts working for liberal NGOs, schools or esol programs. [/quote]

Peanuts?  Diversity deanships pay way more than many law firm jobs, sucker.[/quote]
And they get paid to do nothing. [/quote]

Paid to brainwash kids and appease the angry small mobs.[/quote]

Someone in China and India can't stop laughing at our stupidity.[/quote]
Yeah, because they are all so perfect.  :roll: [/quote]

What a random answer.

They are not perfect and they know they aren't. They are just catching up quickly and educating millions of engineers (for example) while we obsess with AA and ethnic studies.

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Who exactly is “obsessed” with AA and ethnic studies?

What measurable impact does AA have? Positive and negative so we know the full picture.

And you think ethnic studies is displacing engineering? How so?
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Have you been paying attention? Elite colleges like Stanford is so focused on AA that they admit URM students into their Physics major who are unable to successfully complete freshman year Physics classes. The impact is that they denied entry to other more qualified candidates who would have had no problem meeting these basic performance standards. They are also wasting resources constructing remedial courses for these unqualified students, instead of spending that money on research and other more worthwhile endeavors. Why is their physics department putting up a course called Diverse Perspectives in Physics. Where in the variable or constant representing diversity in any physics equation?  [/quote]

That's not "obsessed" - that is trying to close a HUGE, blaring achievement gap.

https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/14/making-physics-inclusive/
[i]"It was no surprise when, in 2016, a Stanford University survey of undergraduates revealed physics as among [u]the least diverse departments[/u] at the university"

"“A lot of that is due to the lack of community and overall climate. [u]People from underrepresented groups often do not feel welcome in physics classes[/u].”"

“In the last five to eight years, there’s been a growing awareness about the importance of identity within the physics community,” said Lauren Tompkins, assistant professor of physics and member of the Equity and Inclusion Committee. “[u]Your identity affects your experience as a physicist and even the physics that you do. If we can acknowledge and understand that, it makes us better physicists.[/u]”

"[u]Students from underrepresented groups often don’t have the same level of preparation from high school as their majority peers[/u]. The difference in preparation is large enough that it may lead students to drop out of the major but small enough that the kind of support offered by this course can be enough to keep them in."

"“We want the students to see that they can pursue their love of physics and still make a social impact in the world,” said Meyer. “[u]One reason for leaving the department frequently cited by underrepresented minorities is that they feel physics is not relevant to their communities[/u], and I hope POISE changes that.”"
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I will propose to you that if any student who fails freshman year physics class at Stanford gives the excuses that the classes don't feel welcome enough, then not only is that student unqualified academically to be in the physics degree, but he is of weak personal character. We are talking about Physics 41 for crying out loud, not a campfire gathering. The class is likely given in a large lecture hall with theater-style tiered seating, attended by hundreds of freshman students furious scribbling notes while the bald professor scratches out equations on the board and telling all students to save their questions for the TA session. With luck, the TA is a graduate student who speaks English as a first language.  Physics is about math and observations - neither of which cares about the color of the student's skin. To measure a physics class in terms of how welcoming it feels is asinine.

If these students don't have the necessary level of preparation from high school, how in the world did they get into the Stanford program? Stanford is an elite university, not a remediation school for people who came up short.

Again, we are not talking about Quantum Physics or some other advanced topic that requires advanced math. This is freshman year Physics on Mechanics. This is like joining the swim team and finding out that you can't do one lap free style - you are simply unqualified.

The students are free to pursue their love of physics to their heart's content, but they don't qualify for being in Stanfard having taken the place of someone who absolutely qualifies![/quote]

Stanford is a private university and defines its own mission. The physics department there has stated that they value inclusion/diversity and they are working on ways to support that. They determine who is the best fit for their program and it is likely not just based on test scores (as is the case for many elite schools).

Given that the Stanford's physics dept is ranked #1 in the US they seem to know what they are doing. And guess what: the Stanford physic dept DGAF what you think, racist twit.

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