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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Now 40 women have come forward to report the serial rapist, Harvey Weinstein.[/quote]

Lupita Nyongo is one of the latest, with a piece in the NYT today.[/quote]
[b]Can someone please post a link to this from the NYT?[/b]
Maybe also some exerpts. Thank you.[/quote]

Okay it took me 4 seconds to Google “Lupita New York Times.” Sorry your device doesn’t have that capacity. Here you go:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/opinion/lupita-nyongo-harvey-weinstein.html?referer=https://www.google.com/[/quote]

So weird. He told her to come to his bedroom at his house so he could massage her. She didn't want to, but instead of saying no and leaving she offered to give him a massage instead...and that was seemingly fine until he took off his pants.

Did he abuse his power? Yes. But that was apparently very easy since many women were seemingly okay with crossing uncomfortable lines in order to curry favor and hopefully land a role. That doesn't make what he did right, but it certainly makes you wonder why these women went along with this. Lupita's situation and many of the others are obviously different from the reported incidents of actual rape. Lupita's situation wasn't rape...she offered to give him a massage.

I understand the power differential, but she and many others had a choice. They picked career opportunities with Weinstein instead of protecting their morals. [/quote]

Please stop with the victim blaming. Stop with judgment regarding "morals." It's so convenient to sit back and say, "Well I just don't understand how that woman could have put herself in that position..." Go back to the article. Print it out and underline all the parts where he attempted to bully her into doing something she didn't want to do. Underline the parts where he asserted his power. 
If you're a man, you have no idea what it's like to go through the world where you're constantly getting messages to just go along, not make a fuss, don't be a bitch, etc. And if you're a woman, PP, I guess you should count yourself lucky that you've never been in a situation where you said to yourself, "I'm really uncomfortable right now, but maybe if I just go along for a little bit, I can get myself out of this." [/quote]

There's a point at which we need to stop being victims.  When he pushed her to order a drink, she should have walked out at that very moment:

[quote]“Why not?” I remember him asking. “Because I don’t like vodka, and I don’t like diet soda, and I don’t like them together,” I said. “You are going to drink that,” he insisted. I smiled again and said that I wouldn’t. He gave up and called me stubborn. I said, “I know.” And the meal proceeded without much further ado. In this second encounter with Harvey, I found him to be pushy and idiosyncratic more than anything.[/quote]

At what point do actresses place their safety and self-respect above their jobs?

Now they're banning together and speaking out, which is good.  Hopefully, this will turn the tide.  But unless women say NO at the start - and then start to network en masse with other women - change will be slow or non-existent.  [/quote]

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