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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh, they pull this nonsense all the time. Just take a look at the standings in NCSL. It's a piece of cake. You'll notice teams that your club has defeated in the standings, while those same teams have trounced the so-called 'valor' team with 5-0 score-lines, and suddenly, valor is winning 5-1 against your team 4-0. I can assure you, if you dig up their ECNL-R or VPSL for their upper # 1 team schedules, you'll find they had the luxury of guest players because they conveniently didn't have any games that weekend. On brand. With that mind, Valor would be the bottom team. You see Valor always push the NSCL schedule out further so once the VPSL season games end for the fall or spring those Division 1 or regional players can piggy back on lower division NCSL games. Other teams do this occasionally, but Valor will send 3-4 guest players at a time. You mind as well change the whole roster or just send the number 1 team. It’s laughable. [/quote]

I can attest to this being true. My kid used to play for a Valor top team and when their VPSL season ended, they were asked to play in the last few NCSL games for a lower team along with a couple other top team kids. It was fun and extra playing time for them. Funny you say Valor does this on purpose because I remember not understanding how the NCSL teams’ seasons seemed to end so much later.

It’s also true that top Valor team kids aren’t necessarily top somewhere else. Our kid is on a different top team now but middle of the pack as opposed to one of the top 3. It’s good for them because they have to work for playing time and they get pushed much harder in their training. The technical skill gap is obvious. Valor really fails at giving kids the proper foundation at the younger ages and it shows as they get older. They can have some short term success with athletic kids, but they don’t instill the importance of ball mastery that they will need later. The few Valor success stories are from true natural talent, not anything the Valor coaches did. [/quote]

For sure…

Now, if you take a good look at some of these VPSL teams, typically finishing in the 20-25 range and landing dead last in the standings, what does that really indicate? Some of the comments claiming otherwise are just plain disingenuous. I've had parents, whom I still know, approach me during a game and confess that they had a bunch of guest players. No one is angry; we're just calling it out and keeping it real. The Valor folks here are upset because, let's face it, call a spade is a spade. Overall, the true strength of a Valor team isn't worth the salt they think they are. Just keeping it 100. [/quote]

I've never seen more obnoxious parents at a game[/quote]

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