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Let's talk about modesty for a moment, how about that, pp.  Have you ever seen a group of Amish people?  In my mind, that is a group that values modesty by virtually any definition.  They wear plain clothes, in limited colors, with no jewelry.  They do not drive flashy vehicles or do anything to attract attention to themselves.  Both the men AND the women are held to a standard that makes them readily identifiable to the outside secular world.  I do not see anything like this in most Muslim communities.  Women in hijab are often accompanied by men wearing Western clothes, including shorts, they can be wearing flashy clothes, flashy jewelry, flashy makeup, driving flashy vehicles.  When I lived in Egypt there was even the phenomenon of wearing flesh-colored tight tops, covered by tank tops, so that from far away, you could barely tell that someone was not just wearing a tank top.  Other than covering hair, I rarely see Muslims that I would identify as modest.  I think limiting "modesty" to merely covering skin is a lot of the reason there is so much pushback on this thread to the idea of hijabs.  We may live in a society that does not really value modesty, but we have all seen modesty and hijabs are not a good example.[/quote]

Thanks, PP. The sight of skinny jeans and eye liner under a hijab at any mall in the area is fairly confusing. I think it's important to distinguish between the idea and the practice of the idea; clearly many of these women haven't internalized the idea of modesty, and that's not Islam's fault. However, it's possible to conclude that hijab, by itself, doesn't guarantee modesty.[/quote]

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