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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Muslima. For Pete's sake. Mohammed's first wife owned property before Islam even appeared. Islam did not "grant property rights to women."  Why do you keep saying that?

Also, you're the one who is so big on using context to interpret the Quran, yet in this case you insist on ignoring context. You're talking about people who were acting 1400 years ago in a context of establishing relations with another tribe. Nor does pledging allegiance to the ruler of another tribe have anything to do with *choosing* the ruler that you pledge to or the "ballots" you kept referring to.[/quote]

Read, woman, read. Nasty Little Muslim here. We just got through telling you that in Sura Ash Shurra there is a verse on the requirement of mutual consultations to decide all matters that require a collective opinion. It clearly makes this statement to both men and women. This means even in political matters, women's opinion mattered because usually political matters require a collective vote or opinion. But this ruling goes for everything from voting on a ruler to deciding who should clean the mosque that week.[/quote]

Dear Nasty a Little a Sidekick (you changed it to Muslim yourself): I just read the Sura Ash Shurra several times. I saw eye-for-eye there. (Did you know Jesus got rid of eye-for-eye? When Muslims tell potential converts they follow the same Jesus, that's not strictly true.) I saw some gruesome punishments for non-believers. And I saw this, which seems to be the closest to what you're saying:

Sahih International
And in anything over which you disagree - its ruling is [to be referred] to Allah . [Say], "That is Allah , my Lord; upon Him I have relied, and to Him I turn back."

Perhaps instead of waving your hands about passages in the Quran, in an abusive tone of voice no less, you need to cut and paste the exact lines. Both you and Muslima are really good with the cut and paste feature, so surely you can do this.[/quote]

Read, Read, Read again. Keep Reading, you might just get it  :lol: [/quote]

Not gonna happen, I have zero appetite for reading again about the punishments for non-believers. Also, reading about eye-for-eye is just plain depressing.

[b]As multiple posters have told you multiple times before, the burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim.[/b]

If you refuse to do something as easy as clipping and pasting this mystery quote -- especially given your facility with dregging through the PBS archives -- we'll just have to go to bed assuming you made yet another claim up out of whole cloth.[/quote]

You keep repeating this over and over, woman/man/virus, whatever you are this is NOT a courtroom, are you a defense attorney???. Nobody has to prove zilch to you, you are not a judge or a jury, Geezzzzzzzzz. [/quote]

Seriously? You make a claim and then you INSULT people who ask you to support it?[/quote]

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