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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Yale report really fails to contextualize that there’s an anti intellectual movement in the US and that that movement doesn’t need to be tolerated or accepted. I agree in the general truth that college shouldn’t be $100,000/year., but to be frank, conservatives’ gripes against higher ed are half fiction or self reports of their own incompetence (lack of conservative faculty). Grade inflation is a post-covid inflation that really isn’t that important, and broadly is a bigger issue for companies that refuse to train[/quote]

You’re certainly right about the anti-intellectual movement (often wrong and absurd), but you’re mistaken to cavalierly dismiss criticisms of academia. It has lost the plot in some basic, foundational respects and requires substantial reform.

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Such as? It’s really telling that people here are eating up the mission change when all it does is assert that Yale does what a community college could do. They seem a bit hellbent on ruining their brand more than anything. These academics would retreat back to their offices if they heard the idiocy of the public these days.[/quote]

1. Grade inflation. Current Harvard debate has been illuminating.

2. Rampant academic dishonesty/fraud. Students and profs.

3. Significant fraud/misrepresentation in admissions, esp. by wealthy international students.

4. Lack of meaningful oversight of faculty/course offerings and uneven (at best) application of institutional standards to faculty pedagogy.

I could list another 5+….[/quote]

Even if all that were true, why do you care?   It's a free market. Go to an institution that suits you.  Just don't bother with Harvard University if you think it's stinks.[/quote]

Nonsensical question. Why do people care about any issues of public concern?[/quote]

Okay, way to skip the question.   No one's forcing you to send your kid to Harvard.  Find a place where you can respect the education and provide that to your kid if you think it's better.[/quote]

Are you seriously contending that we shouldn’t discuss top private universities’ issues on a discussion forum for colleges and universities? Because there are other choices?

That’s the hill you want to die on?

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Okay, it's interesting that you are referring to Harvard as a top university after all the accusations about how terrible it is.   I don't know if you're the same poster complaining that it's not a good place for conservative views.

I don't understand why Harvard University needs to be a great place for views that basically are anti-education, anti-high-level education, anti-science, anti-Research.   If that's what you're looking for, go find it, but don't look for it at Harvard.  Harvard is allowed to have respect for science research.
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