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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Gavin vs JD seems like a good race.  Two normal guys for a change instead of first this or first that. [/quote]

There is nothing normal about either Gavin Newsom or JD Vance. I personally don't think Newsom with his slick hair is going to play well in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, and the other battleground states that Democrats really need to win. California's budget is a mess. The state is unaffordable for the middle class and even the upper middle class. And they are leaving California. Newsom's Covid response was extreme, and meanwhile he was dining at the French Laundry. Progressive policies on crime have been a disaster in SF and LA. It goes on and on. And as Vance demonstrated in his debate with Walz, he can be very presentable when he wants to be and can come across as thoughtful, intelligent, and polite. He won't have the MAGA enthusiasm that Trump has, but if Democrats put up Newsom they will rally around him. As will a lot of independents who are scared of California progressives. Newsom is a very beatable candidate.

Trump's ratings will be in the gutter by 2028. This should be a massive wave election for Democrats. Unless they do something stupid like nominate Newsom, who I don't think can win Pennsylvania, Michigan etc. Just another rich, out of touch California social progressive who has no feel for kitchen table issues. Democrats have made this mistake before. Trump sucks, ergo we can nominate weak men like Biden because whatever. Or another unpopular California progressive like Harris. Democrats paid the price for their arrogance, which is why we have Trump. They should not make that mistake again. A strong candidate in 2028 will win everything for Democrats. Gavin Newsom is not that man.   [/quote]

Newsom will have no problem winning. People are tired of your endless propaganda. The right has lost all credibility. The only way the Dems lose is if Shapiro is on the ticket. [/quote]

The Jew Jew this and the Israel Israel that is going to kill Democrats going forward. The hyper-fixation on Jews and Israel by progressives really destroys everything. Dumbasses. The vast majority of American voters don't give a damn about faraway conflicts. But this is the number one issue for progressives today - not access to healthcare, not income inequality, not climate change or the environment, not schools, not inflation or affordability, not the cost of housing. It's all Israel all the time with progressives.

And it's a big reason why Democrats lose. Single issue progressives are a nightmare for Democrats. [/quote]

Lol. Progressives—simultaneously the reason democrats lose elections AND too small of a voting block to warrant giving any consideration in policy decisions. Gotta love it.

Also gotta love how low of an opinion PP has of their fellow Americans. Apparently, Americans are simply too dumb to care about more than one issue at a time AND too selfish for Israel's crimes against humanity to be a real concern the democrats have to address.

If you'd like to win the next election, maybe try listening to the people whose votes you'd like to win. If they tell you something is a deal breaker, maybe don't insult and dismiss them and still expect them to vote with you, and then proceed to blame everything bad on them, refusing to take even a single look in the GD mirror. [/quote]

Democrats lose? Since 2000 we're have:
8 yrs GOP pres
8 years Dem pres
4 years GOP
4 years Dem
And now a year and 5 weeks into a GOP pres who can't run in 2028. In terms of presidential elections basically it's 4 to 3 and one of those elections required Sandra O'Connor wanting to retire. [/quote]

Imagine what the Democratic Party could do if it didn’t spend so much time cleaning up Republican messes.[/quote]

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