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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There has been almost no growth in lacrosse over 20 years. Some states have grown while others have shrunk. The % of players from the NE has essentially gone unchanged. The fall of MLL led to the rise of the PLL. The article tries to spin growth but it's flat.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/the-geography-of-men-s-di-lacrosse-growth-in-georgia-colorado-michigan-and-more/56369[/quote]

Tell me you don't know how statistics and demographics without telling me you don't know how statistics and demographics work.[/quote]

As usual on dcum, a refute without backing. How about this one: https://projectplay.org/state-of-play-2023/participation
Lacrosse has the highest churn rate of 54%. That's kids quitting the sport each year. 
The participation rate is flat.
Core participation was down 20% over covid to 2022 and has not recovered. To contrast, football was down 13% over the same time and has recovered 7% of that.

One thing that would absolutely help would be for the core principles of the House Settlement to be enacted. More scholarships at more schools would provide for more communities to try the sport in hopes of landing a scholarship. [/quote]

Gotta love a good counterpunch to a d-bag buffoonish comment, especially one about data with data. Well played.[/quote]

Except that isn't the PP's position. So said counter punch is worthless.

The PP stated the DMV area's talent is down because club is destroying rec - more specifically, the PP points to the current 28 class. Well, I think because the PP seems to lump in years and classes to make said position a mishmosh of varying positions that don't really relate to anything.

PP then points to an IL article showing what states, counties and cities DI college lax athletes are coming from. The PP then makes the illogical leap that this shows that DMV clubs are destroying DMV rec. That position misses a couple of points. Lax being played in more locations means better athletes in other areas are taking spots of kids in more traditional hotbeds that aren't good athletes. Wanna go look at what states  DI lax athletes came from in 1990. It was Baltimore (not DC - there were no DC rec leagues - the closest was Howard County), Long island and up state NY. There would be the occasional kid from Connecticut or NJ or the like but those 3 areas were it. It was really weird when you saw a kid from like Upper Arlington, OH. So did club ruin the rec teams for those areas back in 90s when lax exploded to other areas.

Second, is there not club teams in other areas of the country? Are those clubs not ruining those rec programs. Maybe. Don't know, but PP has put out no evidence to support said position beyond their view (a position that I'd guess they have spouted through out numerous threads and pages.)

The participation rate post is better. But, again, that is national report and not specific to a region. Remember, PP's position is about DMV lax. It also just lumps everything together - rec, travel, club, etc. What is what...who knows. Only PP, has made the leap from these reports that DMV clubs are ruining DMV rec.

Citing to football is interesting but the study only shows 2019 to 2022. I wonder what football numbers look like if we go to 2010. Wanna bet is even greater number.

Rec also needs to better work with the clubs. NVYLL finally moved 14U A division games to Sundays allowing 7th and 8th grade HOCO club kids to play instead of playing those games on Saturday when they couldn't.

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