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No, retail theft is not equivalent to murder but it harms businesses and eventually causes stores to leave. What is wrong with good old fashioned community service. Kids in bright yellow vests forced to be out picking up trash, cleaning up graffiti, essentially being obligated to do something positive for their own community to atone for the damage thievery does to the social fabric.

You're describing slavery, not community service.

This W4 resident supports JLGs amendment, in line with 46 states. It doesn't legalize theft under 1,000, it's just not a felony on the first offense.[/quote]

You seriously think that being required to perform community service is "slavery"??  You sound like a 10 year old child complaining about household chores.  We need appropriate consequences tied to the offense.  We don't need to lock up juveniles for shoplifting.  But they do need to be required to have [u]some [/u]consequences.  "Restorative" justice isn't just some surly teen muttering an apology they don't mean.  It's having to actually do something to remediate damage so that there is an understanding that everyone is part of a community that needs to function together.  It's logical consequences---like requiring vandals to clean graffiti off walls.  Chronic retail theft damages communities in that retail stores will leave, thus creating retail "deserts" for the elderly---who may not have the means or ability to drive to shop or aren't tech savvy to order on-line (and even if they did, the unpunished package thieves will just steal off the stoop).  Kids---particularly kids who are coming from dysfunctional family situations--do not understand those type of linkages until those linkages are explained and they are required to complete some action in connection with them.  [/quote]

+100
Well said.  One of the reasons restorative justice fails in general is because it isn’t properly implemented.  Right now it basically hurts the victim more because they have to sit in a room and just accept an apology from the perpetrator.  It’s zero consequences.[/quote]

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