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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the main attraction for CTCL schools is parents and kids who do not have the goods for the top goals, but somehow think they are too good for state schools, so they fall for the hype that the book generates. [/quote] I honestly hope I never, ever become the kind of person who would feel good posting something like this, and I have no CTCL connection whatsoever. [/quote] PP ain't wrong though.[/quote] How are they right? What are some examples of where this person is right? From what I can tell, there are one or two posters who've been great about analyzing some of the allegations with data and providing links for the rest of us here to read (e.g., affluence, retention, etc). Then there is one (or more according to some posters) who makes charges, but never cycles back to answer questions or provide links to their claims. For example, there are "better" schools than CTCLs providing merit but never answers what those better schools are. In a related vein, college admissions nearly always involves trade-offs. A prime example is the need for students to draw up lists of reaches, targets, and safeties for a range of reasons, including academic and financial. Not every student is full pay. Not every student wants to attend their state flagship, possibly because they know that setting might not be the best for their temperment and learning style. Alas, one (possibly more) poster here is adamant that these students are always the spawn of affluent families who want to protect their child from the perceived horrors of public schools. Mystifies me why these folks care - it's not their kid, they are not being asked to pay for these choices, so why are they bothered about a group of schools that a NYT reporter wrote about in a book nearly thirty years ago? [/quote] What is good for the goose is good for the gander. The CTCL boosters always bash state schools and top private schools, so what’s the difference? You’re allowed to hate, so I can’t we?[/quote] No. This is disordered thinking on your part. Every school, as another poster said, has advantages and disadvantages. It's not me "bashing" a state school when I say DD would be lost in a large environment, or, in the case of St Mary's, I'm worried it might be too local. It's not me "bashing" a top ten school when I say: 1.) Dd wouldn't get in, 2.) We can't afford it and they dont give merit, or even 3.) I don't think my child or my family has the temperament or patience to deal with the fanbase those schools attract, the kind of competitive students who actually care that the school is ranked 7 or whatever. So you don't like small liberal arts colleges. That's okay. You've pretty much humiliated yourself by proving your ignorance on the topic. Maybe take the loss and move on. [/quote] I have a lot of respect for top tier liberal arts colleges. My kid attended one. Other than Reed, none of the liberal arts colleges in the book come close. [/quote] What's your experience with them? [/quote] Other than Reed, they all have student body profiles well below my kids, and my kids wanted to be challenged. [/quote] So you have no experience with them.[/quote] It’s pretty clear that the PP you are responding to had very little professional or life experience whatsoever, let alone with any specific schools. [/quote] I answered the question. You just don’t like the answer. So you get all snippy and nasty. Not a good look. [/quote] The answer is that you have no experience, but you lashed out when you were called out on that fact. [/quote] What’s YOUR answer? How deep and how broad is your personal experience with each of the dozens of schools on the list? Two can play this game. [/quote] DP. Collectively, there are a fair amount of people in this thread who have attended, sent a child to, or toured these schools. Not all of them, but a decent number.[/quote] I’m not asking about collectively. And I fall into the “toured” group by the way. [/quote] I understand what you’re asking for, but collectively does matter. - firsthand experience + firsthand experience + firsthand experience…and so on = value - no experience + no experience + no experience = zero value [/quote] So you have no more experience and knowledge than I do. Got it. Thanks for clarifying that.[/quote] My dude, as I said, I’m a DP. Not sure what you’re trying to win here? I’m sure your high stats kids found a really nice place to be. I hope they’re happy. I hope you’re happy. Have a great life. [/quote]
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