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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Although it seems they had made plans to move to the UK, no one is bound by those plans especially when a marriage breaks down. Who knows what happened that night of the big fight but it let to the end of their marriage. Of course that changes things for all of them compaired to their previous intentions.

They hadn't actually established residency yet in the UK so unlikely that intended plans will carry much sway. They spent a couple months  there in late spring with her family and then the kids went on tour with Joe while Sophie filmed her show.

And they have a Sept 6th court order that the children aren't to be moved pending the next legal proceedings. She can't take them out of the country right now. [/quote]

If the facts as alleged by Sophie are true -- and there are surely receipts for things like entering into a contract for the permanent home, the older daughter attending school, etc. -- then they did establish residency in the UK.  Taking the girls on tour doesn't un-move them if the family had indeed moved to England, as Sophie says.

I wish more of the Florida filings were publicly available.  When I look at the Florida docket, I don't see any orders from the court on it.  I don't know anything about Florida family law though, so maybe there is some law that automatically comes into play upon filing, and that Joe's reps are framing as a "court order"?  In any case, whatever it is is based on Joe's filing, which included a jurisdictional affidavit swearing that Florida is the kids' home state -- which seems questionable based on Sophie's filing.[/quote]

His lawyer said he filed on Sept 5th and the court order from the Florida court restricting the move was Sept 6th so it seems likely they more or less happened at the same time.

They went to the UK in April / May - Sophie was starting to film in May so while it seems they did intend to move, they also were travelling all together for work. [b]They stayed with her family May-July while she filmed her new show.[/b] Apparently they entered into contract in July for a house with a closing date of December. [b]However they also own homes in the USA so home ownership wouldn' tbe enough to establish residency.[/b] Then it seems that Joe took the kids (and the nanny) with him in early August when they went on tour as he has a lot more time off (concerts are at night) than Sophie does while filming. She was filming in August in Spain and the UK. It seems filming ended in early September and the original plan had been she would then join him on tour. It looks like the first phase of the tour wraps up Dec 9 and then the next pahse starts at the end of February so they likely intended to move into the new house during that break.

[b]It seems that post the fight they had agreed Sophie could come and get the kids when she was done filming in Sept versus the original plan to join him on tour[/b], however after filing for divorce he was clearly given legal advice to keep the children in the USA while the next legal steps about custody happen. Since they have all lived in the USA for the past few years, I doubt that will be seen as abduction in any way. They own a condo in New York so they have a home there. [/quote]

A couple things here.  According to Sophie's filing, they weren't staying [b]with[/b] her family in May-July.  They rented a property called the Old Farm House, about 20 minutes away from her parents, "on a long term basis" to stay in while waiting for the house to close.

They owned the Miami home together, but entered into a contract to sell it in April 2023; according to news reports, the sale seems to have closed by August.  They used to own a condo in New York, but I think sold it years back.  In Sophie's list of places the kids have spent time, the New York stays were all in "rentals" -- the only owned property mentioned in the Miami house.  So it's not clear that they do own any property stateside right now.

According to Sophie's filing, the plan was always for her to come to New York after finishing filming in September, stay for about a week, and return to England with the children on September 20 (she has a work commitment there on September 28) before then returning to the US again to join Joe for a stint on tour.  May or may not be true, but according to her always the original plan to go back to England on September 20.[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying some of the details. It would be suprising if he hadn't invested in any real estate and didn't own any American property. [/quote]

That's true.  I think he may have individually owned properties -- I believe the prenup protected properties both brought into the marriage.  I should have said I don't think they own any property in the US *together* right now.[/quote]

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