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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all. [/quote] The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.[/quote] Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat. [/quote] This — assuming trump even manages to be a candidate. There needs to be a solid Plan B Democrat candidate. [/quote] With Biden losing in the polls now to Trump, just imagine how far he'd be behind if Trump was forced out of the race due to his legal problems, and was replaced by a more fit candidate? Why is our Dem incumbent behind in the polls to someone as awful as Trump? What are we thinking?[/quote] When you say, "Biden losing in the polls" are you referring to the WSJ poll that was trotted out over the weekend? If so... [twitter]https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1698752963039404282[/twitter] Not really an independent poll, now, is it?[/quote] The same polls that had Biden up by double digit points on trump a year prior to the 2020 election. You know, the reason we were all comfortable with the Biden nomination in 2020. We are in a different place now. Point fingers and cast blame to whom ever you want. All I care about is keeping Trump out of office. I can't ignore the fact that the data staring me right in the face tells me Biden has less than a 50/50 chance of beating Trump in 2024. Considering Trump's history of over performing on election day relative to the polling data leading up to the election in both 2016 and 2020, I won't feel comfortable with anything less than a 5 point average polling lead over Trump. Trump is currently ahead of Biden by a point or two in the average polling data (same polls Biden led by double digit points in 2019). Denying or ignoring these facts will surely put Trump back in office.[/quote] There is no unicorn candidate. They all have weaknesses. A divisive primary would do way more harm than good. Always go with the incumbent. If the economy is strong, Biden will win easily.[/quote] I agree with most of what you're saying and this approach would make sense to me if Biden was currently a clear favorite to beat Trump. Biden is anything but a clear favorite to beat Trump at this point. The economy has remained strong throughout Biden's 1st term yet is currently not favored to beat Trump. We are on the brink of a consumer credit default crisis and the Fed is continuing with their tactics geared towards cooling the economy/job market in their efforts to tame inflation. Is a soft landing for the economy possible? Yes. Will the economy be better off in 12 to 14 months than it is now? Almost certainly not. Is it fair for voters to blame Biden for the out of control inflation or the consumer debt problem? No, it isn't. Will many voters in swing states misplace that blame on Biden? Yes. If you are suggesting the best way to beat Trump is by remaining in Biden's corner regardless of what the polling data tells us, I can respect that as a reasonable, well thought out opinion and it could very well turn out to be an accurate opinion. If your commitment to Biden is in part based on an assumption that he is very likely to beat Trump, you should know that the data is no where close to indicating a likely Biden victory over Trump at this point. [/quote]
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