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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’ve worked on many movie sets and several things went wrong to culminate in an accident like this.  Several people f-ed up.  Alec Baldwin, as the actor, is completely blameless.  No actor can or should ever examine the firearm.

Alec’s Baldwin, a producer on this film, may well bear liability however.  [/quote]

Thank you. The actor never inspects the fire arm. That’s crazy talk.
- IA member from unthread [/quote]

Then an actor should never touch a firearm. [/quote]

PP, it may be that in the future there are better gun safety protocols and less gun use on set.  I hope so.

But that is a different thing than stating what the rules/protocols are currently.  If it is not the norm for actors to have anything to do with checking safety, and to rely on those that are hired to do so, then there is no culpabiltiy here for AB.  What you think SHOULD be, is very different from what actually is.[/quote]

Exactly, why would they rely on actors to know enough about a gun to check it?  [/quote]

Why wouldn’t an actor take on the personal responsibility of knowing that he/she is handling a dangerous weapon and learn?[/quote]

For heavens sake just like any job there are protocols and people are assigned to various tasks. That is not the actors job, nor are they going to go through training for that.

For the AB hater. Did he steal your parking space or something because you are way over the top.[/quote]
I don’t GAF if it’s AB. You are dealing with a dangerous weapon, not freaking coffee or breakfast[/quote]

[b]Do you know anything personally about those industry protocols? [/b]Do you enjoy getting your ridiculous ass handed to you repeatedly? (You scream NO I KNOW IT ALL FROM MY MAN CAVE IN BURKE YOU GOT DETAILS WRONG I WIN. Go ahead. This is clearly your time to shine.)[/quote]

According to this the actor does have a responsibility to do a visual inspection along with the Armorist and confirm that the weapon is clear.

Producers, Director, 1st AD, Armorer go over the plan for everything before the gun arrives on set. Once on set the 1st AD gives very direct instructions about what is to happen henceforth. The Armorer now shows the actors and crew -including the Shop Steward/Safety Captain- that the mag, chamber, and barrel of the gun is clear. Visual inspection is required as well as Audible confirmation of “Clear” from those witnessing. All non-essential crew for that scene is removed from set. Then -before the scene begins- the Actor who is to handle the gun is AGAIN shown a clear mag, chamber and barrel by the Armorist. The Armorer is to say loudly “The weapon is clear!”. The Actor when satisfied with their own visual inspection is to make an audible confirmation of “Clear!”
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This process happens AGAIN when the Actor hands the weapon back to the Armorist after. each. take.[/quote]

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