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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Also this makes the person saying their au pair costs them
$30k per year insane. Unless they’re handing out gold bars.[/quote]
This is only because you don't understand the program and ignore posts by anyone who tries to explain how it works.  As I've said previously, posting nonsense prolifically (and then prolifically patting yourself on the back for your nonsense) doesn't make you correct.  [/quote]

Why don’t you explain it? If you’d like to advance an argument, provide some facts instead of repeating yourself and lashing out at other women. Not a good look. Also, maybe explain to the federal judge and a couple senators who reviewed the situation and came to the same conclusions about corrupting of the program.[/quote]

Live-in nanny here.  Maybe you’ll listen to me, since you are ignoring the HP.

$10400 (roughly, rounded to $200 weekly): directly to the AP; $10179 if paying exactly the stipend
$6000-11000: agency fees
$1000: education credits, $500 per semester
$2400-7200: $200-600 food per month for the extra person (BPs are notorious for eating triple what HP expect), but the amount “deducted” is much less 
$60-600: $5-50 increase in electricity per month, depending on what the AP does
$60-600: $5-50 increase in water per month, depending on how much water AP uses and what your rate is
$240-$1000 phone for a year 
Car insurance rate increase can be several hundred to more than a thousand 
Increased gas for the car
Increased maintenance on the car
Extra flight, food, and tickets for vacation
Extra tickets, food and other costs associated with including AP in dinner out, movie night, apple picking, etc.

Most families hit $24000 without trying.  Many families go over $30k.  I don’t want to count the number of families who switch from nanny to AP thinking they’ll save, then they find they don’t.  OTOH, families who get tired of rematching don’t quibble about a nanny’s rate.[/quote]

None of that is relevant as they decided that they were willing to pay.  They don't have to offer a car and insurance but most do to drive the kids around.  Same with cell phone.  And, you take the AP on vacation for your child care needs, not a vacation for them.  I don't think its unreasonable to ask for more with multiple kids for 45 hours a week.  They aren't even paying minimum wage.  AP is living in their home for their needs.[/quote]

Many families invite au pairs on vacation because they’re a member of the family, not for them to work on vacation. When we do it, it’s max one night of babysitting. And we’ve also had au pairs bring a friend so she can have a proper trip for herself and make better use of the room we are paying for.

Not all families invite au pairs on vacation but for me it always seemed a little cruel. [/quote]

They are not family, they are your employee.[/quote]

They’re an exchange student who babysits. I was an exchange student and I treat my au pairs the way I was treated as one. Including vacation invites. [/quote]

No, they aren't exchange students.  They aren't going to school full time and helping out with babysitting.  They are working up to 45 hours a week taking care of your kids.  That is an employee masked under a cultural exchange.[/quote]

Maybe that’s how you use the program. It’s not how I do. And actually I have had au pairs go to school full time. [/quote]

I wouldn't use the program.  There is no way an AuPair can go to school full-time and do 30-40 hours with school work and other stuff. Do you pay for the full time school?  What do you consider school?  [/quote]

Many families only use 1-2 hours per day.  It's absurdly hard to find someone to fill so few hours, but it's easy to find an AP, because it's easy to have a social life.[/quote]

Such absolute rubbish [/quote]

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