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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So we will only approve of a baby being born if the baby will have a privileged and problem free childhood?

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Let's start with....wanted.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

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Every child deserves to be born.

You don’t get to decide that because a child’s family doesn’t meet your standards, they should die.

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Read your post again. The only one deciding life decisions for other people is YOU.

The person making the decision whether a child should be born or not -and the "not" could be due to poverty, having an abusive partner or just simply not being wanted- is the mother (and with input from the father) and the medical provider. No one making the pro-choice argument is saying that the decision should be driven by my standards, my neighbor's standards, or your standards. That's entirely the point, you twit. The decision is a personal one and you should keep your nose out of it. Unless you're going to adopt these babies no one wants, or who have special needs, or who were born to drug-riddled mothers. They exist (I actually know families who have adopted those children - gay families, by the way). And by the numbers of them still in foster care, I'm guess you haven't done so.

So why don't you start with the babies already here. And leave medical decisions between women and their providers just that-between them. Babies should be wanted.

All babies should be wanted. It's sad that they aren't. But the alternative is, unfortunately in many cases, a lot worse for these poor kids.[/quote]

If abortion is a medical issue- it would take place in medical facilities.

It’s not. It’s an elective procedure that takes place in dedicated abortion clinics.

It’s a procedure of convenience and stats bear that out repeatedly.[/quote]

That's nonsensical.  A "dedicated abortion clinic" is a medical facility.  But abortions take place in hospitals, clinics, and even at home.  The same places that other medical issues are addressed.[/quote]

Abortion has, for the most part, been performed in the U.S. since its legalization: in freestanding clinics, separate from hospitals and the rest of the medical establishment.

Some hospitals do provide abortions; medically complex abortions.

But the clinics do the bulk of the procedures and provide training and other essential services. Many hospitals, for political reasons, don’t provide abortion training. They will be defunded.

Many hospitals refuse to provide abortions because they help people live and aren’t in the business of elective procedures to kill healthy unborn babies. Medical staff are resistant  because of first do no harm and all.

The vast majority of abortions take place in dedicated free standing abortion clinics.

Your propaganda is patently false. Outright lying.
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Abortions are done in lots of places. If it’s not advertised, it’s largely because the providers don’t feel like getting bombed. [/quote]

Really? So when pro choice people say a state has 3 abortion clinics and access is extremely limited and abortion is hard to come by- they are lying?

So there’s LOTS of abortion doctors everywhere and it’s kept on the down low?

Then shut up about abortion accessibility. It’s everywhere.[/quote]

When the average person off the street would have to drive 500 miles to get a 13-week abortion, it’s a problem. But, in the absence of stupid regulations from people with more bible thumping than medical sense, an early abortion can be done just about anywhere. [/quote]

I did mine in my car in a Walmart parking lot.  Or not.  Hard to know if you're actually pregnant at 2 weeks.[/quote]

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