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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes yes Blake is the antichrist.

But also Baldoni harassed and the retaliated against the antichrist. Still bad![/quote]

And yet the court disagreed with you. Stop trying to make fetch happen.[/quote]

The court said she wasn't covered by the SH law but let her retaliation claims proceed.

Oh sorry, I know you hate when I "twist" facts by... stating them.[/quote]

And then she dropped them and walked away. You always forget that part.  It’s over.[/quote]

Yeah...and that's the legalese. But this is a woman who was effing and defending Weinstein to the end while also sending crotch shots and full nudes to anyone who would look at them (married or not) her entire career before her affair marriage and frankly, mainly worried she is entering an unf**ckle status with the age and the weight. That's so plainly obvious. She thought they could play this and it didn't go as planned.

I actually have few thoughts on Baldoni but I'll trust America Ferrera over a Blake any day. [/quote]

Blake is far from perfect but this is untrue. She never defended Weinstein and I definitely don't think he ever tried anything with her. Never heard of her sending nudes either -- she's a big prude so that doesn't sound likely. It does seem like she and Ryan go together when he was still married.[/quote]

DP. The nude thing is totally true. She sent them to Ben on the set of their film the town when Jen Garner had a toddler and a three month old baby. There was a huge celebrity nudes hack called the frappening or something? Blake‘s nudes were caught up in that though she and her team obviously just denied denied denied though it was really obvious. Some even speculated Jen found them on Ben’s phone and leaked them. Then there was a whole thing with Reese Witherspoon shortly after giving a speech at an awards event, telling young celeb women, don’t be stupid enough to have your face in the nudes you send. And she and Jen were close friends, and so it was speculated that was directly aimed at blake. [/quote]

That situation was effed up, but Blake was 22 at the time, Affleck was 38, and he was her director on The Town. People always assume she sent those photos unprompted but there were also a bunch of rumors that Ben insisted on Blake for that role because he had a thing for her. This is exactly the sort of situation where I blame the skeevy older man in a position of authority and give a pass to someone young and dependent on the older guy for a freaking job. This is a story about Ben Affleck, the man who later cheated on his wife with their kid's nanny, being terrible. Blaming Blake for that is typical misogynist hate because while it was stupid of her to send those photos, the odds that Affleck was like "hey you should send me some photos of you in your underwear for, uh, a screen test" are very high. Blake was young, dumb, ambitious, and eager to please. Ben Affleck was one of the biggest stars in Hollywood, pushing 40, married with young kids. And that's on Blake? No.

And the Weinstein stuff is false. She never defended him and there's zero evidence anything happened with them. Don't you think she would have come forward with her own allegations about Weinstein hitting on her when she was a TEEN when other A list actresses were coming forward? Instead she said that while he never did anything to her, she was horrified by what had happened, but believed his accusers. She didn't defend him.[/quote]

Yep, Ben was a major a hole here and has remained one his whole life, though I do think at 22 if you know someone has a toddler and a baby at home you should know better. I just think Blake has never been a person with a lot of depth or character. I was 22 years old once too, and I wasn’t sending nudes to married men. Sorry.

But I don’t think any of those things have anything to do with this case and I believe even if you were in a hole at 22 you could be sexually harassed 15 years later - I just don’t think in this case Blake was and a federal court agreed.

Agree, the Weinstein stuff has always been totally irrelevant to this or anything to do with her. He was a bad guy to a lot of women and I’m sure a lot of women were caught up in it. Whether she was or not, I don’t blame her.[/quote]

I agree at 22 you should know better, but because her team decide to simply deny it was her in the photos, we don't actually know how/why they were sent. I actually find it unlikely that Blake proactively decided to send those photos to Ben. Again, he was her director, a huge star, and he had cast her as his character's love interest in a movie he was directing. Plus he's a known womanizer who destroyed his marriage with his drinking and cheating. I think it's very, very likely he solicited those pictures, potentially under the guise of "I need to see how you'd look for xyz scene" and that she complied. That doesn't exempt her from the obligation to stop, think, and maybe make a different choice. But it would also change the dynamics a lot. We'll never know because everyone involved either lied or refused to discuss it in order to move past it, and honestly that's not the worst way to handle it. But portraying Blake as the aggressor in that whole fiasco is weird to me given the ages and relative power of everyone involved. Very different from the Lively/Baldoni thing where Blake was actually the much more established star and had real sway on set as a result. [/quote]

Yes, all of that could be true. But I will say I never accused Blake of being the aggressor in that situation. Just a participant. But an a- hole participant nonetheless, who should have known better. I can definitely give her grace for being young and possibly taken advantage of.

I truly believe, and you won’t convince me otherwise, that Blake and Ryan started fooling around when he was married to scar Jo. And yes, I hold him fully accountable as the married man in that situation but she deserves some culpability. And I think that marriage was on its way out. I don’t see any world where Scarlett and Ryan would’ve stayed together for much longer. It’s really clear he presents her fame and wants a wife that is more content to stay out of the spotlight. So I don’t blame Blake for the breakup of the marriage, but she just finds herself in these messy situations that frankly a lot of women who manage to move through the world don’t find themselves in.

Again, I will stress all of this has absolutely nothing to do with this case. I believe people can be messy and still be sexually harassed. And I believe most women are at some point at least mildly sexually harassed in their career. I just don’t think in this instance, when Blake had all the power and a very involved, very powerful husband, that she was the target of sexual harassment. [/quote]

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