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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][twitter]https://x.com/troy_in_tahoe/status/1834636862205366289?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote]

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing. [/quote]

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not. [/quote]
Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed. [/quote]

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."[/quote]

Are you even listening to the OBGYNs who are living this nightmare? Several states have 6-week bans and some have total bans. That’s not just “pre-viability.”  6 weeks is before most women even know they are pregnant. So if you discover an ectopic pregnancy at week 8, your doctor is spending more time with their lawyer than they are with you because this procedure was not illegal anywhere until post-Dobbs. The laws are ridiculously vague (on purpose) to sow fear and uncertainty. And then introduce all the complications that are less clear cut than ectopic- doctors CANNOT uphold their Hippocratic oath in these scenarios. I think think the NY law would be the ideal. Legal up to viability and then broad (but not full) discretion after that for health of mother and fatal fetal reasons. [/quote]

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