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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Independent autopsy has been done. Bullet wounds to right chest, right arm, head, and a graze wound (news didn't say where). Depending on where the shot to her head was, the rest could have been survivable I would think--blood stopping products advanced a ton during the ME wars. [/quote] It’s impossible to determine if she could have survived this. Did anyone have a trauma kit or IFAK? They’d need at least one chest seal and a CAT tourniquet. A chest dart would likely be necessary to treat a tension pneumothorax. How quickly did medics get there? QuikClot only does so much.[/quote] There was a doctor on the scene. ICE would not let him attend to her. When the medics showed up, they wouldn’t let them drive the ambulance to her so they had to park nearby and walk in[/quote] It was a crime scene. In situations like this EMS always needs to defer to law enforcement. None of that is out of the ordinary. A doctor without a trauma kit would be useless.[/quote] Survival rates for penetrating gunshot wounds to the chest can be as high as 90%+ The physician could have done decompression--the risk of tension pneumothorax is pressure on the heart and major arteries. When my son experienced this condition (his heart was already pushed to the right, it was the left lung that collapsed spontaneously) the incision immediately resolved the problem of outside air pressure in the chest cavity. This was not a situation in which there were ongoing threats, and EMS personnel are trained to exercise care when treating a patient at a crime scene. LE medics could also perform decompression. What we have NOT been told is exactly what steps LE medics took and at exactly what time. Notice that this has not been disclosed in spite of (IMO) compelling public interest (and the federal agents are not covered under HIPAA). [/quote]
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