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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Actually, in terms of modesty, no--I don't make that distinction.  I dress equally modestly in public as I do at home.

There is of course locale specifc dress that would be attention grabbing in other contexts.  Fore example, I wear a bathing suit at the beach or pool but not otherwise.

My family does get subject to my unmade face and untidy hair, however, when I am home sick--wearing a nightgown and, of course, a bathrobe if I am not in bed.[/quote]
I don't believe you would feel equally mortified exposing your breasts to your husband and your boss, sorry. [/quote]

Ha! obviously we are not talking about what goes on in the bedroom, but rather how one goes about one's daily business in the house.  I wouldn't bear my breasts to my kids or other family members either!

[B]But in Islam it is perfectly fine to wear the most provocative outfit of a miniskirt and crop top or whatever else in the house around one's male relatives as long as one bundles up in public.  Personally, I have seen this.[/B]

But, I think, for most Americans (not trying to speak for everyone, just my observation), there is a very small gap in the modesty of dress worn publicly and in private and the wide gap one sees in Islam is confusing.  For us, modesty in the house and in public are pretty much the same thing.  Not so in Islam.[/quote]

Bull- just because you have personally seen Muslims wear provocative things in private doesn't make it am Islamic Ruling. Modesty is the Character of Islam, we are told to be modest in character and action,  whether in private or public.  Yes women don't have to cover their hair, and awrah  when male relatives are around,  doesn't mean the Islamic guidance is go naked and dance like a freed monkey around your relatives. We still dress appropriately in private,  we just have mire leeway as to what we can show.  Heck,  I have a friend who never takes her hijab off even when it's just the 2 of us,  I've never seen her hair.  And another friend was telling me recently that she never saw her MIL's hair and that her husband actually  never saw his own mother's hair and we were laughing about it , like WTH, really the woman never takes her hijab off. [/quote]

Obviously, there is no official ruling saying dress provocatively at home.  But, equally, there is no ruling saying you cannot dress provocatively at home, and often that is done.  Even you admit women take off their hijab--worn for purposes of modesty--at home.  My point was that for many Americans, modesty is modesty and the difference is very small between public and private places.[/quote]

And there is no official ruling saying you can't dance naked. Obviously, it is not the norm to dress provocatively just because one is at home.  And the fact that you think it is shows your lack of knowledge of Islamic adaab. If anything,  it is always emphasized how people need to dress appropriately , and respectfully,  this applies in and outside of the home.  Modesty is not limited to  being in public. Now there are different ways to dress whether you're in public or not even for AMERICANS  :-),  and if you call that modesty or not is irrelevant. There is a reason why you can walk in your jammies at home with your family around but won't show up at work wearing your color coordinated jammies because you think they are cute. Whether you like it or not,  we all follow  a dress code, whether it is by society standards,  God's, or not.  [/quote]

Jammies are every bit as modest as a business suit, if not more so. Yes, there is socially accepted attire--but that is quite different from modest attire in terms of what is covered up.

As I said this is of no particular significance to me, but I am wondering why you are so defensive about the observation that there is a very large gap in standards of modesty for home and public in Islam, while there is a relatively small one in the West.[/quote]

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