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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]

True. Gold and silk have been forbidden to men in this life, only women can wear them,  but I have yet to  hear about the men lobby crying injustice in dress codes and marching for the right of men to wear silk and gold.  Somehow it's all about the injustice of the Muslim women and their headscarves  :lol: [/quote]
That's because no one controls the way men dress.

Let's break it down in a simpler example.

Option 1. You're a man in Jeddah. You walk along the Corniche sporting a gold necklace. What do you think will happen to you?

Option 2. You're a woman in Jeddah. You walk along the Corniche sporting a pair of tight jeans and a clingy top.  No headscarf, no outer coat. What do you think will happen to you?[/quote]

Stop mixing Islam with the Muslims. What Saudi Arabia does had nothing to do with Islam.  I don't think anyone is puting a gun on the head of the women wearing a niqab in Tysons Corner[/quote]
You didn't ask a religious question ("why are there no men's rights group asking to make gold and silk available to men?")  You asked a question that has to do with social structures underlying the enforcement of these commandments.  I gave you a perfectly logical answer - because society does not supervise and judge the way men dress the way it does women.  There are no demonstration for the men's rights to wear gold and silk because while prohibited from wearing them religiously (according to non-scriptural sources), men aren't prohibited from wearing them socially.  No one demonstrates for rights that are already available. [/quote]

And your argument is flawed since wearing a hijab is the law in how many countries again? In the majority of Muslim countries,  nobody supervises what women wear. Really, women choose and like to dress this way,  why is it so hard for you to accept? [/quote]
You are confusing laws with social mores.  It actually isn't the law to cover in most countries on the planet, KSA excepting.  Social pressure is different from laws.  There is, for instance, no laws requiring you to be slender, but social pressure to remain slender does exist, and there are social costs to gaining weight. There is no law against garish makeup, but social pressure to keep it down, and social costs for not toning it down.

You asked, sarcastically, why no one demonstrates for the rights of men to wear gold and silk.  I responded, quite logically, "because most men are socially free to wear gold and silk, regardless of religious prohibition", the way women socially aren't free to not cover.

It actually isn't hard for me to accept that women cover voluntarily since 90% of my Saudi inlaws cover everywhere.  The fact that many women cover voluntarily does not at all negate the fact that there is in fact social pressure to cover in many Muslim-majority countries, and that there are social costs for women who don't cover.  I am actually completely indifferent to the issue of covering vs. not covering, I've covered my face when it was socially profitable to do so, and I think it's stupid and immoral to require women to uncover. But none of that negates the fact that there is in fact social pressure to cover, and social costs are imposed on women who do not. The degree of these costs varies from country to country.  Whether or not this has anything to do with religion is irrelevant. [/quote]

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