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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP, you are almost single handedly engaging in a modern day lynching, except you don't have access to a rope and tree so you are doing it online.

As a Muslim woman, I can validate the truth of what Muslima has published thus far in defense of her statement support Islam granted women voting rights over 1400 years ago.

The sura Ash Shura means "consultation" and the verses she quoted are evidence that women had political say, they had the right to offer their oath of allegiance to rulers if they wanted and this was independent of their father or husband making an oath.

You said this oath of allegiance is different from voting. Not necessarily. Ash Shura, the Sura in the Quran, states those who believe in Allah will rely on consultations for deciding any matter that requires a collective opinion. This hints at the importance of democratic decisions. The language does not only refer to males, either. This requirement to come to a decision collectively applies to men and women. This is powerful evidence that women were not excluded from political decision making. Their opinion counted too.

You asked why muslim countries took so long to give Muslim women voting rights. Its a logical question and has a simple answer that any intelligent person should be able to deduce. After the Prophet died, the condition and treatment of women deteriorated, and slowly returned to pre-Islamic times. Muslima tried to explain to you, numerous times, that Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries do not fairly reflect Islamic practice. Your misunderstanding of Islam stems basically from your inability to distinguish Islamic faith from Muslim practice.

Now you want Muslima to be banned from DCUM when you have done nothing but engaged in a modern day, online lynching of her? You follow her from thread to thread. One member of your racist group told her to go back to her country. Yet, you want HER banned?

You represent the ugly, disgusting, loathsome minority with your hatred of Islam and vendetta against religious Muslims. Very few people have come to your defense because your exposed yourself to be a promoter of hate. On the other hand, the reason more people have not come to Muslima's defense is because they recognize you may have a psychiatric disorder and explaining anything to you is pointless when you are on a one-woman-atheist-Islam-hating-racist mission.

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Wow. What a hateful post. It says a lot more about you, dear little sidekick, than it says about anybody you are attacking.

There are at least three, and probably 4 or 5, posters here who are sick of Muslima's conversion efforts. Still, nobody here has called for Muslima to be "banned," you just made that up. However, another Muslim -- who is probably you -- repeatedly threatened various non-Muslim posters with removal by the moderator. Once one person, one single time and several threads ago, and who is not me, told Muslima to returned to her country. But on the other side of the scales, let's review the insults you've hurled at people:
- gap-toothed redneck
- bad cook
- husband about to divorce non-Muslim poster
- unemployed and unemployable
- drug-addicted son
- porn-addicted son
- Christian-evalngelical-crusader-Islamophobe.
- miniskirt-wearing granny
- stupid, ignorant, various synonyms for dumb

Looks like most of the bad behavior came straight from you!

The point is, there is no excuse for Muslima to say things like "Islam provides equal rights for women" when she knows very well that this will be misunderstood by Western ears. There is no excuse for Muslima to claim converts exceed immigrants when the facts, provided by you or by her, prove quite the opposite.  There is no excuse for Muslima's insulting, abusive behavior whenever anybody questions her. If she wants to clean up her act, I'm sure many people here would welcome her. Same goes for you.[/quote]

Maybe those western ears need to stop trying to hear that which the western mind simply can not understand. Google articles on "Equal rights for women in Islam" and you will see most Muslim authors consider rights between men and women to not only be equitable, but equal also. Muslima is simply like every other Muslim expressing the same view. You have invested far too much time on harassing Muslima and vilifying my religion. The insults were deserved. You accuse Muslima and I of proselytizing. DCUM is not the place to proselytize. I sure as hell hope nobody contemplates life altering conversion based on information collected on DCUM. However, you and your one toothed back woods gang of three to five people do have an agenda, which is to trash Islam by publishing false information and you have incurred my wrath. You keep deliberately publishing false or misleading info because of your personal hatred toward Islam and I will most certainly reserve special language for you. As the western saying goes, if the shoe fits.[/quote]

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