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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Christian poster

I think I have more appreciation for atheistic and agnostic viewpoints since reading in this forum. Not from the overly reductionist and gross generalizations type of posts but from thoughtful atheists/ agnostics.

I feel like I have  probably have more in common with some atheists and agnostics than more literally minded religious folks in terms of believing that:
(A) women’s reproductive rights represent basic human rights (these decisions should be between women and their doctors) 
(B) the division between church and state needs to be legally protected to protect them both from corruption and exploiting religion for unholy purposes; 
(C) GLBTQ + rights represent basic human rights (other peoples’ sexuality and gender affiliations is none of my business and they are people worthy of the same rights as the rest of us); and 
(D) sensible gun laws are needed to reduce catastrophic mass gun shootings and accidental gun deaths.

I love God and love my church. However, living in peace requires commitment to protecting freedom of choice, shared human rights, respect for science and medicine, and democracy.

The Golden Rule is a transcendent moral code that I believe both religious people and agnostic/ atheists also believe in.

I do think that Christians need to do a better job of shining our lights in our dark world. 
“By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another" 
John 13:35.

… “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”
1 Corinthians 13:13

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I’m not sure if you’ve posted before but I’m an atheist and sincerely believe the world would be a better place if every Christian was like you.  And I wish I had met Christians like you instead of the evangelical ones that have caused my family so much harm [/quote]

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I am so sorry to hear that. It is truly terrible that religion causes some people a great deal of harm.

I hope you meet more religious folks who are simply loving presences in your life and not judging or imposing their views on you.

I have evangelical family members and strongly disagree with their politics and interpretations of some scriptures .However, I know they mean well and are misguided. Or maybe I am misguided but whichever is the case: I ask them not to talk about politics in family conversations. I try to find common ground and avoid the landmines .

I know many atheists are highly Moral and principled and lead full lives. I think I am just wired to be religious as it is something that  I feel deeply within me. But I don’t think one needs to be religious to be a good person and often it causes many unnecessary conflicts.  But feelings of deep peace and unconditional  love feel authentic in my religious experiences. Probably other people may feel
Similarly through non religious experiences of hiking in nature, volunteering to help others and making time to appreciate beauty in its many forms.

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Yeah we don’t see any “unconditional”’ anything coming from the Christians we know lol.  Entire lifetimes of love and what I thought were deep bonds are thrown away if one of your kids turns out to be gay for example.   Renders all the love I have shown completely meaningless as the while relationship was conditional the while time and I was a fool for not seeing [/quote]

It is so profoundly iwrong to demonize children and their families for being gay.

I am sorry this was your experience. My church even has support groups for parents of GLBTQ+ youth to support them in loving their children the way they are.

I can understand why people become atheists with the lack of love, compassion, and care shown by so many Christians. [/quote]

FYI - I did not become an atheist because of the lack of love, etc., shown by Christians.  I became an atheist because it became obvious that God is a human-made phenomenon.[/quote]

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