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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think I finally figured out why this entire thread - starting with post 2, not the OP - feels so odd.

The goal on the part of the atheist poster(s) is not to convince anyone. It's to dunk on the religious. It's "own the believers," the nasty culture of our politics come out to play in what should be a philosophical discussion.

Is this really fun for anyone?[/quote]

IDK,

I'm Catholic, many times people will say Christian's believe X and Ill say not Catholics. Or a Catholic will say the pope says Y and Ill say the pope is fallible, he isn't creating doctrine. It's nice he said that but okay, I can disagree with the pope.

I'm not dumping on anyone, I'm just pointing out something that is not correct.

Atheists do the same thing. It's not dumping to say "that is not correct". Just like b[b]elievers say show me proof there is not god[/b]... that's a valid point not dumping.

I also think most people can have a conversation they have points and counter points and are not open to learning.[/quote]

Believers saying show me proof there is not god is not a valid point. As has been pointed out numerous times, its not possible to disprove. However, the inability to disprove something does not also make it true. [/quote]

This is right.   Scientifically, you can neither prove nor can you disprove it.   [/quote]

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