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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Other than a few hockey players and lots of attractive women who seem to enjoy doing porn there is not much Russia offers the rest of the world for culture or any real value.

After Russia loses in Ukraine I hope the country spends a few decades evolving into something tolerable.  [/quote]

Most of "Russia's" culture and history actually came from Ukraine.  They even stole the name Russia from the Kievan Rus.[/quote]

Oh god what a hoax lol
I mean I wish Ukraine to win and all the best but let’s be real here and not entertain crazy theories [/quote]

Not so "crazy" - do some reading on the Kievan Rus and Vladimir-Suzdal Rus.  The founding families of Ukraine are who elevated Moscow from an obscure nothing place in a swamp into a place if meaning.[/quote]

I am sorry but no one is interested except Ukrainians 
Probably not even Russians
I mean this kindly as an outsider: people who talk about this get eye rolls behind their backs. I don’t recommend mentioning it to anyone except fellowUkrainians or maybe if you want to antagonize a Russian. It’s just irrelevant [/quote]

I mean this kindly as a bystander: I give people who don't get this eye rolls to your face.  I think you don't know what your talking about and you're an incompetent fool.  Revisionist history is a the bread-and-butter of Russian Propaganda used to indoctrinate the population to support Russian Government military action. Russian propagandists talk about this stuff just about every other week.  If you ever travelled to any part of the former Soviet Union or one of its satellites, history a very big deal.  In fact, if you even say the wrong word, it's a big deal.  Say "brot" versus "hlep" or "molim" versus "pashalasta" will pretty much set the tone of your conversation with that person.

Putin’s Inaccurate Historical Propaganda : The History of the Russian and Ukrainian Relations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzxBKcTpRe4

"Falsification of history of Poland by the Kremlin"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk09zyW5j2w

"Kadyrov, however, went further. Not content to be a mere Kremlin mouthpiece, his essay spins out a specious history of Chechnya that blames the West and not Russia for two brutal wars that subjugated his republic."
https://www.polygraph.info/a/6743317.html

"How Putin's propaganda is weaponising the Russian Orthodox Church"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H7lGVGNVME[/quote]

And under the watchful gaze of Roskomnadzor, the revisionism and propaganda flourishes, and any truth to counter it gets squashed.[/quote]

Nobody cares.[/quote]

Nobody cares?  Russian media outlets care, they get arrested or get their licenses pulled if they dare tell the truth about the war.  Even calling it a war would have gotten you jailed a year ago.

Nobody cares?  We here in the west know that the only words to come out of Russia have already been heavily laundered in accordance with the latest propaganda.

The only people who don't care are either fools, morons, or people in denial.[/quote]

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