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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Because you're being careless with your claims... FWIW, my kid has never gone to an after school tutoring program, neither has my other DC who is not in a magnet and doesn't want to be.[/quote] NP: Colleges, including UMD, do not compare IB students across high schools or at the county level just like they don't compare kids at different STEM magnet schools in the same city or county, e.g. Poolesville vs Blair. As a state institution, [b]UMD considers kids in the aggregate at the county level to ensure that the university is geographically diverse across counties.[/b] There is no IB cohort within MCPS. How do I know this, because as a professor I sat on faculty academic committees that advise admissions policies, participate in grad admissions, and I am friends/colleagues with admissions staff. As the PP noted, you made a blanket statement about RMIB data and tried to apply it to all of the county IB programs. Depending on the school, a 1440 in an MCPS IB program other than RMIB may be average or about the mean. You are right that we don't have this data but I have seen data from other school systems similar to MoCo with IB programs and 1500+ was not the median. IB diploma does not equal 1500+ SAT scores. [/quote] OK, so no one really knows what the median SAT scores are for MoCo IB students other than RMIB. But as you stated, UMD will look at students across the county, not just RMIB vs RMIB. So, an IB student at BCC would be compared to an IB student at RM, if they are looking at the county level? That's even worse for the IB diploma kid who has a 1440 SAT. Even so, weight 3.84 is low for an IB diploma grad. The thread started with both the SAT and weighted GPA being low.[/quote] No, I said [b]aggregate[/b], which means all kids... [/quote] Aggregate means that the kids are compared to each other within the county, as you say. So they are all part of the group, [b]but wouldn't they take notice of a student with an IB diploma and compare them to other IB diploma students[/b]? Which makes sense if the PP's kid was rejected but other non IB students with lower stats was accepted. And I'm pretty sure the 3.8 was weighted. Don't know if that was a typo though. [/quote] I have never seen or heard of that happening (grouping IB students together from different programs). I am also good friends with two admissions directors, one at an Ivy and another at a top 20 school and they haven't mentioned anything along those lines. However, universities are increasingly using enrollment algorithms to determine yield and to achieve demographic goals (e.g., gender balance, full pay/financial aid, URM, etc.) so the process has become more opaque, meaning that could explain why the IB kid was rejected but a lower stats non-IB student was accepted. BTW, I'm not arguing any of this is good. This may be of interest: https://www.brookings.edu/research/enrollment-algorithms-are-contributing-to-the-crises-of-higher-education/[/quote] Thanks for this article. It's very informative. [/quote]
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