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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only way this can work is to make it OPTIONAL. Plenty of people will want to report their neighborhood adversity score, and plenty won't. It is profiling and just as disclosing your race is optional and applicants have strict control over what they wish to present in their applications (even teacher recs--you can opt to see them but of course most would not), having a mark on your application which may be inaccurate and stereotyping should be something you can OPT OUT of.[/quote] It's not something you will be able to OPT-In or out of. The College Board provides it to the colleges and the colleges are free to use it or not. They've already piloted it so it's been happening already. This isn't about the individual information that kids provide - they are using publicly available data to provide more context. Can people actually read about it to understand how it works? Might help to do this to be informed.[/quote] Do you understand what the word "Piloting" means? Are you aware that organizations/businesses are capable of responding to feedback, especially if they realize they will lose money if they share information associated with a performance score that the consumer doesn't want them to share. Yes, colleges can do their own assessments of adversity or privilege. The issue is that paired with a score of performance is a score that affects perception of that score, and is not viewable by the consumer. Dumb.[/quote] Excuse me I full well know what a pilot is. If you think you are going to escape this, then you are the one that is DUMB. Colleges have already been doing this type of data mining on their own and taking it into consideration during the admissions process. So I guess you plan to have your kids avoid college altogether.[/quote] Of course colleges have their own ways of doing this. Everyone knows this. It's their choice to look at each student individually. The outrage is about the College Board doing this, and doing it badly. They are not doing mass demographic profiling on a national scale. Without transparency. And the concern is that they will use context data to diminish the achievements of students with low adversity scores as that would be discriminatory. [/quote] Colleges hire other small companies to do this type of data mining for them and have done so for years. Sophisticated admissions offices don't just look at the individual information to get context. They do all sorts of large scale data-mining to find talented students. They are taking a page from Facebook, Spotify and Netflix and using big data to get results. College Board is helping to facilitate their need to find talented students from less-resourced communities. If your children are happy, healthy and smart you might want to ask yourself why this is so threatening? The College Board is not beholden to you or anyone in terms of so-called transparency, they can do what they want. [/quote] DP. No, it’s not that simple. [/quote]
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