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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A school with only 27 teens and 1:3 ratio?

Appears the diagnosis must have been pretty severe, we understand boy was mentally ill, but I wonder what was the daughter's condition to warrant this school?

If both had severe needs, I agree parents should have focussed more on mental stability rather than focus on the Nazi obsession.

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The buzzfeed article says that one Buckley’s concerns was how the excessive amount of time her daughter spent  on the phone with her boyfriend made her forget her meds, etc.  [/quote]

Quoted PP here. Right, even if this boy was a liberal who loved Jews, he was still bad news. So the Nazi aspect was a red herring.

I also feel the matter should have been discussed privately between school and both sets of parents without involving unrelated friends like the 18 year old in the article or emailing the contents around. Regular discipline methods like curfew, social shaming and grounding probably did not work here.

Both sets of parents likely underestimated the criticality of the situation. It is a no win situation overall.

I would be very interested in knowing how he got the gun, since given that anything could have set off this boy, not having the gun seems to be the only way to have avoided this tragedy.[/quote]

He didn't need a gun to get into that house.  If it hadn't have been a gun it could have been a baseball bat, a knife, a brick or God only knows what else.[/quote]

But chances are high that, had the weapon been a baseball bat, knife, a brick or God only knows what else, the parents would still be alive today.

The problem is ACCESS TO GUNS and the sheer number of guns that are floating around in seemingly "normal" homes and communities now.

And for that, the NRA and gun manufacturers have blood on their hands.[/quote]

I dunno.  The Manson family didn't need guns to carry out their horrors.[/quote]

Oh please. The Manson family were professional killers, not some 17 year old idiot yahoo, going up against two adults.[/quote]

Those parents expected to confront a mouthy kid.  They did not expect a weapon.  So I don't know that you can assume that another type of weapon wouldn't have yielded the same result.  The boy was not mentally well.[/quote]

I cannot believe I'm spending this time drawing a picture for you but apparently, that's necessary.

Parents walk into bedroom. Kid is there, with daughter, holding a gun. Boom. They're gone.

Parents walk into bedroom. Kid is there, with daughter, holding a baseball bat, brick or other weapon. Altercation ensues. Parents are injured, perhaps even seriously. But there is far more of an opportunity to fight back or turn the weapon on the perp. Baseball bats and bricks are not lethal weapons by definition of existence. Guns are.[/quote]

Parents walk in, mentally unstable, angry kid goes berserk and beats them/stabs them to death.[/quote]

I know you're earning your NRA points by arguing this, but, statistically, you are wrong. We are talking about ODDS of what would happen. The fact that a gun was in the equation makes the situation infinitely more dangerous. [/quote]

He could have covered the main floor of the house with lighter fluid and torched the house killing everyone inside of it.  
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Frankly, I doubt he was that smart.[/quote]

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