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Romania finally admits that a Russian drone landed on their territory. Face-saving announcement says" Russian drone parts".

Obviously article 5 won't be triggered for this, but... it's always nice to see modern technology defeat some politicians' reflex to lie.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66727788

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A better question is why Ukraine is so keen for a NATO country to claim they’ve been attacked by Russia.  [/quote]

Russia has been using S-300's (air defense missiles) as artillery for several months now, so not news.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-now-firing-s-300-surface-to-air-missiles-at-land-targets-in-ukraine-official

"We are not seeing strong preparations for winter," 
“Perhaps because their logistics are complicated. They barely have time to meet their current needs for ammunition, protective equipment, and to bring in some new units to replace damaged or destroyed ones. That is why we have not seen such a massive procurement of winterization supplies.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-military-notes-absence-substantial-115500617.html

This is an interesting observation.  [/quote]

Just one more push with a big aid package boys!  Lockheed needs you![/quote]

If you do the math on 113b the US has given ukriane and assume 120k dead Russians so far that is about 1m per kill.  $340k per casualty at 300k Russians killed or wounded.

That does not include lost hardware.  And obviously the US is paying Ukrainian government salaries and a bunch of other stuff.

Still a total bargain.  Would like to see higher Russian death rates & casualties - but maybe estimates are low or Ukraine can cause more damage inside of Russia to get better ROI.[/quote]

most of our aid has been used hand me downs and soon to be decommissioned equipment.  it has a value for accounting reasons but isn't new spending.[/quote]

Yep, even the HIMARS are 1990s-vintage.  It's old, to-be-decommissioned stock that we already paid for and which we needed to be rotating for newer equipment anyhow.[/quote]

Yes. Exactly right.

Almost everything sent to Ukraine is old equipment that was due to be decommissioned regardless.

It's actually cheaper to send to Ukraine than to decommission.

Now we're talking about F-16s. That's a plane from 1976.

The return on investment has been outstanding. Russia is obviously a very weak country. We're sending some old-timey weapons to Ukraine and Russia is getting absolutely wrecked as a consequence.

Good stuff.

The greatest thing Russia ever did is invade Ukraine.

Dumbasses. NATO will take advantage of that as long as Russian soldiers are in Ukraine.  [/quote]

LOL you're soo goood at amplifying the Kremlin propaganda:  the West is only in this war to hurt Russia, not help Ukraine. They don't care about Ukraine.  You're the best unwitting helper Solovyov & Co. ever had.[/quote]
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Sweetie, it can be both. 😘[/quote]

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