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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pick on the Walmart set all you want; but also be honest that Americas elite has a pretty crappy record with military adventure.[/quote]

Please remind me which military adventures the Walmart set has not vigorously supported?  Pretty much Ukraine, and why? Because Trump is a self declared friend of Putin, who was led to believe, by Russians, that Ukraine somehow conspired to interfere with his election.

That is what it's about.  They are not the hapless victims of Americas elite. They are currently the hapless victims of Donald J. Trump.[/quote]

A lot of people lost their appetite for endless wars after the never ending Afghanistan/Iraq debacles. Has absolutely nothing to do with Russia Russia Russia. [/quote]

Agreed that the Cheney team did a lot of damage to US foreign policy.  But if you turn your back now, you'll be the same as empowering Hitler in 1938.

"On 1st September over 320,000 children went to school at liberated territories and on Donbas, 29,500 of them are first graders. This is one of the main achievements of the SMO [special military operation]. We have torn over 1/3 million children out of the hands of the crazy rusophobic propaganda. This is wonderful."
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1698238267181662561

"When some million and a half 10th- and 11th-graders across Russia and the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine started the school year on Friday, they received new textbooks for their history classes. Of these, the most notable is the new 11th-grade Russian history text, hastily written at the direction of a Kremlin aide to justify what the Russian government calls the “special military operation” in Ukraine."
"The new textbook, titled History of Russia: 1945 to the Early 21st Century"
"Amnesty International denounced the book as a “blatant attempt to unlawfully indoctrinate school children in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories,” pointing out that teachers in the occupied parts of Ukraine “are at risk of violence, arbitrary detention and ill-treatment” if they refuse to teach the material."
"Over more than 400 pages, Ukraine is mentioned more often than any other former Soviet or Russian possession. Its supposedly central role in Russia’s own history is unambiguously promoted, while Ukrainian independence and alignment with Europe are “unthinkable” and “civilization-ending.”"
"The most infamous periods of Soviet history—genocides, mass deportations, political prisons, mass executions—are barely mentioned at all."
"When describing Russia’s supposedly “historical” ownership of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, for example, the book claims that ethnic Russians make up the “absolute majority” of Crimea’s population. But Russians only became the dominant ethnicity in Crimea through a policy of colonization and ethnic cleansing—especially after 1944, when Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatar population, which he falsely accused of collectively collaborating with the Nazis."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/03/russia-schoolbook-schools-ukraine-west-indoctrination-history-falsification-war-hatred-putin/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921[/quote]

You’re not really making a case for the Ukrainian ownership of Crimea here. [/quote]

It's making a case that Russia is brainwashing children with a version of propaganda as revisionist history.

Russians have a difficult time dealing with 'factual logic and truth' versus untruths that they are forced to accept without question.  When faced with a reality they cannot accept, many become irrational, angry and violent.

The man, thought to be in his early 40s and speaking in Russian, approached a group of children in the town of Einbeck in Lower Saxony who were sitting together on a bridge speaking Ukrainian.  He told them they should be speaking Russian instead and that it was in fact Ukraine that started the war.  The man then pulled the hair of a girl and threw a boy over the bridge’s five-metre high railing and into the canal, according to investigators.  The boy hit the bridge’s iron girders before dropping into the water.  The man then picked up a glass bottle and threw it at the boy while he was still in the water, hitting him on the right shoulder. The attacker fled as the other children helped the injured boy out of the water and told their parents."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-throws-10-old-off-144938016.html

Typically, they will seek to determine the level of authority making the statement and contrary statements are labeled as "delusions" (e.g. things that must be accepted without questioning or reasoning).  This is a core tenant of Russian propaganda, so you'll see it play out here in DCUMS from time to time.  There was a lull on this thread for a while, but it appears a new pair of Russian trolls may have been assigned to influence the thread.  When confronted with facts that cannot be refuted or countered, many will instinctively react by undermining the person versus the fact.

The Russian Government takes this to the extreme by indoctrinating / brainwashing children, monitoring their reactions and culling out those that do not adapt to the training.  As adults they can also be labeled so that they can be quickly discredited or locked away.

"The patients with paranoid symptoms retained some insight into their condition but overestimated their own significance and could manifest grandiose ideas of reforming society. Thereby, sluggish schizophrenia could have such symptoms as "reform delusions", "perseverance", and "struggle for the truth"."
"On the covert orders of the KGB, thousands of social and political reformers—Soviet "dissidents"—were incarcerated in mental hospitals after being labelled with diagnoses of "sluggish schizophrenia", a disease fabricated by Snezhnevsky and "Moscow school" of psychiatry."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=On%20the%20covert%20orders%20of,%22Moscow%20school%22%20of%20psychiatry.[/quote]

Do you think DCUM might benefit from a character limit on a single post?[/quote]

The Russians will, that's for sure.[/quote]

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