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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Go read the establishment clause of the US Constitution.

The sharia bit is a red herring. Stupid Newt made a ridiculous comment, and everyone is focusing on the narrow issue of sharia. Have you read Noah Feldman's opinion piece in the NY Times? He makes an excruciating argument that sharia is a beautiful thing which some have twisted and which pretty much all Muslims can't agree on what it actually means. Okay. Whatever. The bottom line is that you can call it whatever you like: sharia, Islamic law, political Islam, yabba dabba Doo. We don't care, and it doesn't matter...because that's not the real issue. The real issue is that *some* Muslim countries (or communities) do crazy things that we don't like under the auspices of religious law or custom. I'm not just talking about ISIS or Al Queda. Generally speaking, the civilized world doesn't think any middle eastern government has a model rule of law that protects basic human rights. And we recognize those governments impose laws tied to religious beliefs and cultural norms. [/quote]

Now we are getting somewhere. I couldn't agree more with you that we shouldn't be discussing Sharia. It wasn't me or the posters here who share my views that introduced that into the discussion. Historically, immigrants have come to the US from countries where things were much worse. That is why they immigrated. Historically, those who were already here feared that the negative aspects of those countries would come with the immigrants. Historically, large immigrant groups faced significant prejudice and discrimination and found challenges to assimilation. In all these respects, Muslim immigrants are no different. None of us wants the negative aspects of Middle East countries -- and I would include Israel in that -- to be adopted by the US. I can't speak for everyone, but I bet most of us strongly oppose the governments of most Middle Eastern countries or accept them only as the least bad option. Focusing on those particularly aspects that we find negative is much more productive than generalizing about entire religions or people.
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Ugh, i wish life were this simple. I wish people were only afraid of Muslims because they are the newest to arrive and cooked odd food, instead of being afraid because a small minority of Muslims around the globe are vowing to bring violence here and elsewhere. If only it were that easy.[/quote]

How did this country win the cold war is a wonder? The threat faced by US during the cold war was MUCH bigger than the threat from muslims. These are not state actors. They dont have army,AF or navy. They are barely 1% of US population. According to FBI the bigger threat is actually from White Supremacists. BUT I GET THE DIFFERENCE NOW. White Supremacists dont threaten the whites but only Minorities and Jews. So Whites think they dont have to worry about White Racists. But being a minority, I worry about White racists killing me and my family because thats what they have done through out "Minority" history, if not US history. But You guys do realize Minorities live in the US and are part of US history right?[/quote]

I can't even go on. This is just repetition from earlier posts, without my responses making any difference in your thinking.

You are wrong about what I feel and think. Sorry you don't understand. You can continue thinking there are Americans out there that are like the ones you describe above -- and I'm sure there are because it's a big country -- but not me. It's true that people interpret everything around them just to reenforce what they already think. Sad. I give up.[/quote]

I didn't even know it was you. But I feel the same way you feel when you talk about the fear of 1% of the US population. I dont fear the white supremacists are a threat to the minorities today, not at all, neither are the small segment of a small 1%muslims to American citizens of whatever race.[/quote]

And yet, there was an ISIS sympathizer arrested in Burke just last week. And let's not forget the accounts from folks here who have called in odd behavior (photographing and documenting man hole covers, filming streets, flight paths, etc.).

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We can go back and forth, for every ISIS sympathizer I can give 10 white racist sympathizers arrested at various times. The point being, muslims are no more a threat than white supremacists to this country. [/quote]

Thank you. Please provide ten examples and explain what they were plotting in detail.  Arrested in the same time period.  Thanks.[/quote]

The following white supremacists have been arrested in the past 1.5 years alone from a 2 minute google search. White Supremacists are regularly arrested for so many crimes against minorities. You have to be a minority to know what goes on in this country daily that whites dont care about due to their white privilege.

Check the SPLC news to find out how many Racist hate crimes are committed on a daily basis.

https://www.splcenter.org/news
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch

Check the FBI report about hate crime on blacks on Jews in 2014:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2014/topic-pages/victims_final

2015/16 alone:
http://newsone.com/3249096/white-supremacists-arrested-by-fbi-after-planning-to-bomb-black-churches/

http://www.app.com/story/news/local/public-safety/2016/05/16/lacey-cops-possible-white-supremacist-felon-arrested-ak-47/84433628/

http://www.phillyvoice.com/suspected-white-supremacist-arrested-after-stockpile-guns-and-ammo-found-south-jersey-woods/

http://www.phillyvoice.com/suspected-white-supremacist-arrested-after-stockpile-guns-and-ammo-found-south-jersey-woods/[/quote]

^^ meant to say blacks AND jews.[/quote]

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