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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Go read the establishment clause of the US Constitution.

The sharia bit is a red herring. Stupid Newt made a ridiculous comment, and everyone is focusing on the narrow issue of sharia. Have you read Noah Feldman's opinion piece in the NY Times? He makes an excruciating argument that sharia is a beautiful thing which some have twisted and which pretty much all Muslims can't agree on what it actually means. Okay. Whatever. The bottom line is that you can call it whatever you like: sharia, Islamic law, political Islam, yabba dabba Doo. We don't care, and it doesn't matter...because that's not the real issue. The real issue is that *some* Muslim countries (or communities) do crazy things that we don't like under the auspices of religious law or custom. I'm not just talking about ISIS or Al Queda. Generally speaking, the civilized world doesn't think any middle eastern government has a model rule of law that protects basic human rights. And we recognize those governments impose laws tied to religious beliefs and cultural norms. [/quote]

Now we are getting somewhere. I couldn't agree more with you that we shouldn't be discussing Sharia. It wasn't me or the posters here who share my views that introduced that into the discussion. Historically, immigrants have come to the US from countries where things were much worse. That is why they immigrated. Historically, those who were already here feared that the negative aspects of those countries would come with the immigrants. Historically, large immigrant groups faced significant prejudice and discrimination and found challenges to assimilation. In all these respects, Muslim immigrants are no different. None of us wants the negative aspects of Middle East countries -- and I would include Israel in that -- to be adopted by the US. I can't speak for everyone, but I bet most of us strongly oppose the governments of most Middle Eastern countries or accept them only as the least bad option. Focusing on those particularly aspects that we find negative is much more productive than generalizing about entire religions or people.
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Ugh, i wish life were this simple. I wish people were only afraid of Muslims because they are the newest to arrive and cooked odd food, instead of being afraid because a small minority of Muslims around the globe are vowing to bring violence here and elsewhere. If only it were that easy.[/quote]

How did this country win the cold war is a wonder? The threat faced by US during the cold war was MUCH bigger than the threat from muslims. These are not state actors. They dont have army,AF or navy. They are barely 1% of US population. According to FBI the bigger threat is actually from White Supremacists. BUT I GET THE DIFFERENCE NOW. White Supremacists dont threaten the whites but only Minorities and Jews. So Whites think they dont have to worry about White Racists. But being a minority, I worry about White racists killing me and my family because thats what they have done through out "Minority" history, if not US history. But You guys do realize Minorities live in the US and are part of US history right?[/quote]

I can't even go on. This is just repetition from earlier posts, without my responses making any difference in your thinking.

You are wrong about what I feel and think. Sorry you don't understand. You can continue thinking there are Americans out there that are like the ones you describe above -- and I'm sure there are because it's a big country -- but not me. It's true that people interpret everything around them just to reenforce what they already think. Sad. I give up.[/quote]

I didn't even know it was you. But I feel the same way you feel when you talk about the fear of 1% of the US population. I dont fear the white supremacists are a threat to the minorities today, not at all, neither are the small segment of a small 1%muslims to American citizens of whatever race.[/quote]

OMG, I can't even.... I'm not going to bother repeating that I am not afraid of American Muslims -- I am afraid of radical Muslims. And yes, they are a threat today, in the U.S. What in the world do you call San Bernadino?[/quote]
You are the one who doesn't get it. They are no more radical than the white supremacists. or Christian Fundamentalist like Robert Dear. So you need to be just as fearful of EVERY radical, or NOT fearful of any radical. Because every live no matter who they kill are equal and they are all american lives. So you saying you are afraid of RADICAL MUSLIMS, is indicating you are not afraid of WHITE SUPREMACISTS coz they dont kill you. But they kill other Americans, unless those americans dont matter to you.

TAKE THIS PARAGRAPH OF WHAT YOU POSTED AND WHAT i POSTED TO A REASONABLE WHITE PERSON or a minority AND THEY WILL GET WHAT i AM SAYING.[/quote]

No, that's not correct -- I already posted this, but WHITE SUPREMACISTS HAVE NOT ISSUED A CALL TO ARMS. RADICAL ISLAMISTS HAVE. If white supremacists started telling their followers far and wide to ram vehicles into crowds and blow up malls, do you really think people would shrug and go back to watching TV, because they are white? ???

And BTW, i have posted on multiple posts in all caps about COPS KILLING AMERICANS. Notice I said "AMERICANS" and not blacks, because I am WHITE and yet it hurts me DEEPLY that American cops are killing black Americans. So YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!!

But I'm sure your next post will just be more of the same.....[/quote]

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