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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP here. Maybe I can help clarify: Jews are both a religion and an ethnic group. When I introduce friends who are Indian or Greek, they often have a bond even when first meeting, just because they come from similar upbringings and culture, even if they were raised in America. I don't know why people feel that this same fact among Jews is something to criticize.

I think it's a blessing that our culture brings us strength. I am a religious Jew who isn't particularly "culturally Jewish" but I dont have any hatred for those who are, and I'm glad it brings them pride for their heritage.

Rude people are obviously unfortunate, but I'm not sure anyone expects inclusiveness our of sorority sisters!  Please stop and reflect on why Jewish cohesion bothers you so much and why you can't accept that our history and culture has made us a strong ethnic group along with our religion (and despite the fact that we don't all look ethnically similar) and that that's a good and important thing for us. [/quote]

While ethnic people can be proud of their heritage, it's another thing for them to want to only associate with their culture in this country. I would feel an Asian who won't befriend anyone else outside of their culture as also acting exclusionary. What I guess I have more respect for though is if the Asian is actually participating in a lot of Asian culture. I was not seeing much participation among my jewish friends other than discussing potential anti-Semitism or something like that. Few cooked ethnic meals, observed holidays even at home, or believed in god. Despite their lack of cultural and religious activities, I've seen the jew bond is very strong and I was wondering why.

You mistakenly assume that I was talking about sorority sisters being completely open to everyone being included in their sisterhood. Maybe you have no experience with sororities, but as noted previously, jews, blacks, etc. were excluded from some sororities in many years past. I don't know the entire history of how things came about, but complaints must have been brought up and colleges started requesting these groups form a PanHellenic council that would make sure no one was discriminated against and have them all work together toward a greater cause for the college. There were actually events throughout the year where sororities worked together on a project for the college. The way our week of rush worked is that the first day, everyone visited all the sororities and this whole program was led by the PanHellenic council, which included sisters from all the sororities although they couldn't reveal which sorority they were from, and they talked in depth about the fact that the people rushing and the sororities should not be discriminatory and keep an open mind. Most sororities had more people requesting to be invited than they had room for, so the first day was really a day where the sorority was putting on a show for many people about why their sorority was special and worthy of college recognition. I think we had over 10 sororities each being able to take in about 30-40 women so there were probably 300-400 women coming through their doors. That's why the actions of those women was so egregious. They were intentionally going against the entire purpose of the PanHellenic council. The last day, the sorority invited only people who they were open to having be sisters, so at that time they could be extremely picky, but not on the first day. Obviously I was not invited back even on the 2nd of 5-6 days.

And someone asked a question of whether I knew whether jews were being discriminatory. Many jews were not discriminatory and would even agree that a particular jew or group of jews were being discriminatory, but would kind of say it as if that's the way things are and that I should just deal with it. And other times, it was the reaction of someone I didn't even know treating me badly or ignoring me the minute they met me and learned my Christian name. I don't go around thinking all jews are discriminatory the minute someone disagrees with me or ignores me especially if they don't do this all the time. And I have no hatred of jews. That's someone's interpretation on this board.[/quote]

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