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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people:  Ns
Queen:  f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors:  "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs:  "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair:  "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes.  But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol[/quote]

Watch the movie.[/quote]

The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM.  Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar.  Well... he threw a drink on a stranger.  How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts.  Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww!  That's adorable!"  It's not.  I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her.  That's not civilized.  That's disgusting.[/quote]

Okay sure. But what would you do if it was your daughter or son with this disorder and they were the ones yelling out obscenities and socially inappropriate things. What if was them having involuntary movement tics and knocking things? What if it was your child saying those words to others? Would you just be disgusted by them and keep them home? How would you protect their siblings? What would you do with your uncivlized child? Picture your kids - where would you send them away to to ensure they didn't bother anyone?[/quote]

DP: If it were my kid, I would teach them to be very quick and very good at apologizing, and working on empathy would be ongoing— because I would want them to be able to have the option of successfully navigating societal interactions with other people.  It’s a given that in light of the disorder, they are going to bother and possibly disgust other people. I’d want them to have the best possible chance to interact positively with peers and the wider community. Social skills would also increase their safety .

It’s wild how many comments here are saying things like: you want to send them away.  Nope. I’d want to teach them social skills and empathy to keep from sending them away.  There is a middle ground — and it includes taking responsibility for the impact of one’s behavior on others.

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I think your view that he doesn't have empathy would be changed by seeing the movie. And that people with coprolalia don't have teachable social skills. Or that he hasn't tried therapies, groups, medications, adaptive equipment etc. [/quote]
He doesn’t have empathy if he can’t issue a clear public apology for the harm his words caused. He can’t control what comes out of his mouth, but he does control how he handles the aftermath. [/quote]

I would like to think that adults who can understand the difference between a racist person using the word and how that impacts and a black person using the word and how that impacts can also understand the difference when its a person involuntarily vocalizes the word with no intent or direction due to a disability and how that impacts or  Japanese person saying the word because it means someting else in Japanese and how that impacts. I actually find it quite shocking that so many are saying they are incapable of differentiating between these. The idea that the impact and the harm is the same regardless of intent isn't true at all - as people do not react this way to a black person saying the word. If nothing mattered other than impact and it simply the sound of the two syllables that causes irreparable harm and trauma - then it would be the same if a black person said it. Since it doesn't, it does mean that people are capable of understanding context and intent and are just choosing not to in this scenario. So directing all his anger and hate at him seems pretty performative to me.[/quote]

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