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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Posters in here want students to do the Native American land acknowledgement spiel with their legacy status. Sorry. Not going to happen. Kids worked hard and got in. Shame about those that didn’t, but there’s a college for everyone.[/quote] No, we just want people to stop pretending there isn’t a benefit to it when we all know there is. More generally, we want people in positions of privilege to stop pretending that they earned everything by themselves and have the perspective to understand the privilege they were born into.[/quote] No what you want is students to apologize for getting in - where does it stop? Should they wear little badges around? An FGLI here? An athlete? Rich public school kid? You overlook your own privilege and love pointing out everyone else’s [/quote] Nobody is asking for apologies. They are only asking for honesty. And generally, other groups are honest. Athletes and athlete parents typically are very straightforward about lower standards needed for admission. Same with FGLI. It’s only legacies and their parents that insist everyone pretend that legacies don’t have a significant advantage in admissions. This entire thread was started because a legacy parent is freaking out because her child (who is nearly a legal adult) heard someone say that his parents went to the same school. That shows a level of fragility and entitlement that you just don’t see out of the other groups. You don’t have to apologize. But don’t demand everyone pretend reality doesn’t exist, either. [/quote] No one is demanding anyone pretend anything. You’re the one demanding everyone ritually say “I got in and it’s because legacy admits have an easier time”. [/quote] Defensive much? No one thinks that, they just think it’s weird to act to another kid like it’s completely irrelevant and there’s no chance that being a double legacy broke the tie between two kids. If you or your kid can’t be gracious and honest in your good fortune I don’t know what to tell you. [/quote] Well what you do think the kid should say to such a rude comment?[/quote] “You’re right, I’m very lucky.” As a FGLI person myself I would never introduce myself as “FGLI, luckily!” so whoever said that upchain is a moron. [/quote] Well then what would you have said if someone said you got in only because you’re FGLI? And why should they say “you’re right?” Just because legacies have a higher admit rate does not mean that legacies get in ONLY because they are legacies. [/quote] You are the first person ever to say anything as dumb as “you only got in because you had to swim very hard upstream against generational poverty going to an underperforming high school, how lucky!” so I never had to come up with a snappy retort for that. Most people understand FGLI requires much more grit and talent than being double legacy on top of being decidedly NOT lucky. [/quote] Defensive much? Questbridge kids have a lot of admissions advantage - and they’re FGLI. Would you be ok with people saying to them that they only got into school because of QB? You wouldn’t and you shouldn’t. And you know why? Because it’s completely rude and off base. [/quote] I don’t find it rude, just dumb. FGLI get in because their success is more impressive due to their background. Legacy get in even though their success is less impressive. Which you should have explained to your kid a long time ago. [/quote] How do you know what success either particular kid has had? That’s where your argument falls apart. [/quote] As a general matter, when you're a legacy, your family's educational and socioeconomic background makes getting into college easier for you. When you're FGLI, your family's educational and socioeconomic background makes getting into college harder for you. [/quote] Not these days.[/quote] You should be poor then. It will make your life and your children’s lives much easier. [/quote] Most elite colleges are shooting for 20 percent fgli and 20 percent Pell eligible. We had to go through three plus years of test optional to make this a reality. [/quote] 34% of undergrads nationwide receive Pell grants. 20% means FGLI students are severely underrepresented. And most elite colleges aren’t even close to 20%. [/quote]
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