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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread  should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.[/quote]

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.[/quote]

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

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DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.[/quote]

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

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This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.[/quote]

Oh, I didn't say at all what Israel is "willing" to. Israel doesn't want either option - a unified 100% democratic state (called something other than 'Israel'), OR a two-state solution. Israel doesn't want anything that involves compromise or sharing or peace (for anyone but their own imported people). [/quote]

Lebanon is able to successfully handle three religious sects by mandating the president is   Christian,  the prime minister Sunni Muslim, and the speaker of parliament Shia Muslim. That’s in their constitution.

Israel/Palestine also have three religions among them. It’s possible to have the same arrangement in a one state solution: Jewish president, Muslim PM, Christian speaker etc.

As for it being the “Jewish state”, it cannot be a Jewish state if it’s a democracy. It needs to make a  state religion and hold elections like Iran if that’s the case

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[b]Israel is both a Jewish state and a democracy[/b].[/quote]

DP.

That's an oxymoron. You cannot be a religious nationalist state and a democracy. Pick one or the other, but you cannot be both. 
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Not really. It has universal suffrage, recognizes civil liberties and an independent judiciary but also prioritizes a Jewish identify in its flag, immigration policies, national symbols, holidays. It’s both. Secular democracy is a different thing.[/quote]

A democracy for Jewish people is not a democracy, pp.
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Good thing Israeli citizens of all religions and ethnicities can vote then.  [/quote]

And non-Jews have different laws on how they can become citizens. That's democratic to you?
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