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Reply to "American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage (Wall Street Journal)"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t buy that women who have never married are focusing on the “unpaid labor” aspect. That’s more of an issue that arises in marriage later on, after kids arrive. I think the likelier explanations are increased working areas, fewer social interactions generally (we see this in studies of Americans having fewer and fewer friendships, some of which would of course lead to romance), economic instability and fewer college educated, emotionally stable and well paid eligible men. More than ever, women are looking for income and education in men.[/quote] Do you think young women are stupid? It’s not hard to see. [/quote] Dating isn’t like marriage. It’s hard to see down the line how someone will interact with you once kids come along. Especially if you have lust blinders on.[/quote] This was the first generation of young women who truly saw moms work in near equal measure to dads- and breadwin in record numbers. This is also the first generation of young women who were raised in the activity laden nightmare that is modern day parenting. They heard terms like “mental load” and heard about the invisible work of parenting. They saw their parents work their ass off just to pay for daycare, while their standard of living wasn’t guaranteed to rise. This generation of women is neither smarter nor dumber than past- but they sure are more educated on the realities of cost of living/kids/quality of life issues [/quote] Agree to disagree. A subset of women may be thinking along these lines and not wanting to marry sure, but is that the primary reason for the decline in marriage? I personally think the other factors I raised, specifically the availability of well paid and educated men, are more relevant to the choice not to marry, and the workload balance is a greater cause for divorce. [/quote] You think women are so dumb that they cannot think in advance about what it would be like to be married with kids?[/quote] I don't think they're dumb - but I had a number of law school classmates who simply didn't anticipate the lazy that would appear in their seemingly ambitious hard-working lawyer husbands who suddenly became helpless in the face of household workload and childcare workload and developed a sudden need to spend hours in the bathroom with the door locked after marriage and kids. I'm in my 50s so I'm talking about women who grew up in the 70s and 80s and naturally assumed that their college+ educated husbands who grew up in the same era understood that women expected a more equitable division of labor in the family. The shock and disappointment when they realized their husbands expected them to be working moms and also shoulder much more than half the load at home both physical and mental has worn many of them down into very different people and driven a fair number to divorce. Men need to wise up.[/quote]
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