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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a COVID impact. Lacrosse will rebound…. [/quote] Maybe a factor, but the emphasis on club over local isn't only a lacrosse phenomenon. Additionally, the clubification of youth sports in general has also started an arms race for reserving fields, with deeper pocketed clubs (of all sports) pushing out rec and local teams. The overall climate of youth sports is beyond the pale. [/quote] Except in NOVA county facilities give precedent to county/rec teams. Then travel teams get the remainder. So that isn’t true at all[/quote]Thanks, Cabell. Maybe you misunderstood his post or don't know how supply and demand works. Rec charges(d) $150-200 a year. Fields saw they can charge $175-250 an hour to clubs and rec can't afford that. You can charge thousands and unless you're an idiot take home half even while doing that and $4-5000+ tournaments.[/quote] I understand it completely. The PP is just wrong. You don’t know how field space is allocated. Again, when the county sends out county field space reservation. Time is given to rec teams 1st at no charge or extremely low rates. Then outside parties are give their choice at much higher rates. [/quote] This^^^ I do the schedule for our rec organization. [/quote]So how much does field space cost per hour for you, turf vs grass, and where? [/quote] i didnt respond None ya, but i don’t really care to sumbit our field schedule to you. sits complicated and a big file. You can easily google that or you can call PRCS and see what they offer for 501(c)(3)’s for the times you need and location and type of field you need to rent.[/quote]NP, these are the responses I expected. Vague assertions and then I can't tell you anything, top secret. You backed a guy that didn't understand that a singular point, turf field rates, is an issue. Not priority. It's not complicated, even if you have it in a big file. But thanks for chiming in.[/quote] Not the PP but... Again, you don't understand the process. You seem to think it is backwards - club gets the pick of fields first, then rec. DPR's charge low or no charge field use to their own rec programs use. Any charges is for accounting purposes. So even if they charged their own programs for field use, it is really just one hand moving money to the other. Come each season, DPR gives rec organizations priority when picking fields. Then what is left over is provided to outside organizations at higher rates. There is a reason most lax clubs rent private school fields because they can get priority through paying more. They don't like using DPRs because they are in the back of the line. If you don't believe me, do what the PP stated, just call or google. It isn't hard to find. [/quote]quote]THE. ONLY. PEOPLE. THAT. ARE. TALKING. ABOUT. PRIORITY. ARE. THOSE. THAT. ARE. NOT. FOLLOWING. THE. DISCUSSION. If you are given priority to buy a $3 million dollar home, but cannot afford it, it does not matter that you had "priority". Here is the simple math: - 20 players × $165 - 175 = $3,300- 3500 in revenue - 10- 11 weeks of practice 2x per week (on a half field to be split, no less) - your share of 8 games - that is expenses of 21-22.5x $175 per hour (10-11 + 4 x 1.5 hours): or $3,675 - 3,937 expense for field time only So you are in the hole from $4-600 before paying for: - refs - uniforms - NVYLL or other - equipment - balls - anything else The point was that the proliferation of expensive club has priced out rec for good fields. The counties know they can fill fields with them, so they can set prices high. There is no such thing as free turf fields for everyone in rec. CYA et.al. may have had a good thing going (though that's ending for them), but parks and rec is charging. Can they still get on for games? Yes. Practices rained out in the rainy season? Too bad.[/quote] you’re forgetting that we are getting much of our field time FOR FREE not a discount FREE. READ THIS AGAIN FREE. This is very clearly outlined in the field allocation policies and procedures the prices for commercial use which is clearly defined vs501(c) orgs that meet the criteria as Affiliated Leagues. you people are so lazy. you can’t even google.[/quote]No one is "forgetting that". Just because you get whatever deal you get, doesn't mean there aren't dozens of programs in the area that do not. This was a simple point made by the OP and has turned in to a $&!+ show by a bunch of know-it-alls. Please go be Mr. Helper somewhere else.[/quote]
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