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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not a trumper, but this ends badly for us citizens overall. Don’t care if Trump is the nominee or not, but you can’t just use courts to weaponize your opponents.

Had he been convicted of started an insurrection, I’d be onboard. But this is the worst way to do it. The ones who are ok with this are saying “hey I’m good with losing my rights and losing democracy to vote for who I want”. It has dangerous consequences.

Granted, Trump being elected is dangerous in itself. But at least the voters are making that decision. Not a handful of judges.

Be careful what you wish for…[/quote]

So you are saying that someone who tried to steal an election and foment a coup shouldn't be held accountable under the terms of the US Constitution?

May as well ball up the document and toss it in the can.[/quote]

He has not been convicted of what you're accusing him of.  Is this super complicated for you?  [/quote]

Show where in the Constitution a "conviction" is the threshold.[/quote]

Per PP, Robert E. Lee was eligible to be President after the civil war because he wasn't convicted of a crime that hadn't been written at the time he took up arms against the United States. That's some good originalism for you! [/quote]

No Lee took an oath as a US Military officer. The point of the 14th was to stop the southern state from putting form confederates in the US government. So yes it would apply to Lee and everyone else. Read it. This is a retroactive addition to ban all people disloyal to the US and the constitution.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Lees oath

I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support(and defend added in 1862) the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. 
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Not sure what your point is. Lee and Trump both previously took oaths to support the constitution of the United States, then broke those oaths with their subsequent rebellion and insurrection.[/quote]

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