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Vaccines saved no lives. Amish did nothing and did not have a death rate higher than the highly vaccinated public.[/quote]

Nope.

[quote][b]In contrast to the patterns in the larger U.S. population, excess deaths in the Amish and Mennonite communities did not decrease after vaccines became available. After vaccines were widely available to the teen and adult population in March 2021, Amish/Mennonite groups experienced a spike in death rates.[/b] The number of excess deaths rose to 33% in March 2021 and increased even more, reaching 45% in April 2021. Excess death rates spiked to 49% in July 2021 and achieved a yearly high of 80% in November 2021. The consistently high numbers of excess deaths in November 2020 and 2021 may be related to the traditional fall “wedding season” in many Amish communities (Troyer, 2021).

Fewer deaths followed the high peaks of excess death amongst the Amish/Mennonite population. The number of excess deaths dropped below the baseline average several times throughout 2021, suggesting the presence of deficit mortality (Brüssow, 2021; Fouillet et al., 2020). Deficit mortality indicates COVID-19 impacted people most vulnerable to infection or complicating factors during the spikes in excess death. The decreases in excess death immediately following the peaks suggest a less vulnerable population or resistance to COVID-19 due to infection-induced immunity. Figure 1 displays the Amish/Mennonite excess death patterns compared to the U.S. population. This population did not experience spikes in excess death in conjunction with the Delta mutation.[/quote]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10233516/[/quote]

I can’t tell from that what the overall death rate data is? In a population not taking precautions, it seems plausible that the original excess death rate is higher but then trends lower due to faster acquisition of immunity than other groups. Like it says, the Amish didn’t have a Delta spike. And of course you have to take into account other features of the Amish population that don’t have to do with the vaccine - rural, larger households, possibly less obesity, age differences. [/quote]

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