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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's interesting that people think the Marine should know the "necessary" amount of time to choke someone and would know what amount is "more than necessary."  Perhaps I don't have as much experience choking people as the former prosecutor has, where he can be precise when he finds himself needing to subdue someone. You know, one of those everyday situations where you fear for your life and have to choke someone for just the right amount of time to make them pass out but not die.  [/quote]

Well, if you are going to use a potentially lethal solution to a problem, you should probably rethink it if you don’t know where the line between lethal and non-lethal is. Or be prepared to be charged. [/quote]

Let's back up. Why do you think it is acceptable to put people in this position?  The government has decided that it has no responsibility toward severely mentally ill person, and leaves the general public to deal with it at random. The results will OBVIOUSLY be death or violence. Sometimes when the mentally ill person randomly punches them in the face, as Neely did to an elderly lady earlier. Sometimes when the mentally ill person tries to throw someone on the tracks, as Neely did a week ago. And sometimes when someone, like Penny, steps in to protect the public.

There's no way to celebrate what happened on that subway. [b]But there's also no way to rationally pretend that Penny was homicidal[/b], based on the facts as we know them.  People are not going to continue to be okay with increasing levels of violence and decreasing levels of protection.  They will also not tolerate the status quo in which anyone who tries to protect themselves is cast as a villain. You would have no interest in this case if it were Neely who choked out Penny. No one is protesting for the normies. [/quote]

I am not claiming that he was homicidal. I am claiming that he used a restraint technique that is known to be extremely dangerous, to the point that LE avoids using it, with which he had little or no experience, and it resulted in the death of a man who had not touched anyone on that train. I don’t think he meant to cause death, but he did. Is there to be no consequence for this?[/quote]

We are in violent agreement that the situation is dangerous. Where we disagree is that I think this calls for more policing, stricter policing, etc, and your solution is to expand the prison system and lock up the people defending themselves. [/quote]

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